Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI

johannapam1 · 12-07-2008, 18:10

Hi All

Coming home tonight from Brackley I noticed that on the Motorway at around 70mph when I took my foot off the throttle pedal I heard like a droning noise. If I accelerated away the noise went. I took my foot off the throttle and then put the auto in to nuetral and this made no difference - the noise was still there. At first I thought it was road surface noise but after all along M40,M25,M26,M20 i thought not.
I then noticed as I came off the Motorway that the noise was there all the time and if I put my foot gently on the brake pedal (say half an inch)the noise got louder. If I braked hard the noise went away. The car drives absolutely normal, performance ok no vibrations or anything - just this "vwom vwom vwom" type droning noise. The only other thing is that before I noticed this noise the hand brake lever had stuck on. I pulled the lever up and down a few times and then it released and I was then able to get under way.
Could this have anything to do with this noise???

Anyone any ideas please before I take it to dealers whilst still under warranty?

mdk1 · 12-07-2008, 22:00

Think it might be a trip to Gillingham for you! Sorry don't know what the noise is.
Hope it's not to serious, have you looked to see if there is a stone stuck in your pads?

Bluefox · 12-07-2008, 22:05

Wheel bearings?

vRSLen · 12-07-2008, 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluefox

Wheel bearings?

It does sound like wheel bearings to me

skodanut · 12-07-2008, 23:20

dont think its wheel bearings....as you would feel it through the steering wheel, and even make out what side it was coming from.....but then again your car being different from mine i wouldnt write the possiblity of bearing failure off.....how many miles has your car done? it could be cv joints...or brake pads...either way have a nose around before you take it too the dealers.......let us know what the problem is

johannapam1 · 13-07-2008, 08:53

The car has done 25000 miles and 3 yrs old in November. The rear pads and disks were replaced by dealer in March. Imust admit the noise is like wheel bearing type rumble from earlier cars I have had with that problem but then there is this hand brake sticking on and the noise after. It certainly seems that the two are connected. I was just thankful I got home ok. Will have a look around today if Im cansee anything simple - but if not then 7am tomorrow morning i will be at Sherlodge Mike!!

John

johannapam1 · 13-07-2008, 09:55

Well - been out to look and can't see anything untoward?
car not well though as the noise can now be heard at 15mph and still gets worse when I rest my foot on brake pedal (half inch or so) and seems to go if I brake to stop. I will be at Sherlodge tomorrow morning first thing as i don't feel I can drive it any distance without risk?

Thanks for your replies - will update thread as soon as i know what the problem is.
John

rotodiesel · 13-07-2008, 11:03

John, From your description, it does sound like a wheel bearing. If you've had trouble with the hand brake sticking on, the grease may have melted out of a rear wheel bearing. Did the handbrake stick before they changed the pads and disks (disks at 25k miles?!) as there is a design fault with the rear calipers.

If the piston is not fully retracted and the inner pad fitted carefully it's possible to trap the dust boot. This results in the brake not releasing properly. It's also possible to fit the pads so that an anti-rattle spring pokes through the window in the caliper rather than preloading the pad as it should.

The other favourite malpractice is hitting the disks with a hammer to get them off the hubs when they have rusted on. This Brinnels the bearings and failure will occur shortly afterwards.

Not that a VAG dealer would ever do such things...

rotodiesel.

johannapam1 · 13-07-2008, 16:06

Thanks Roto - I have only had the hand brake stick this once, never before.
Will update as soon as I know more

regards
John

Baker21 · 13-07-2008, 19:31

I really hope that this gets sorted mate...........

skodanut · 13-07-2008, 21:15

having read this thread and suggested a comment, i decided to take all the wheels off and clean them front and back, the inside of the wheels being black with dust and tar deposits, and i noticed my rear pads are looking decidedly thin
the car has done approximately 16700 now, and im thinking about getting the rear pads renewed. made enquiries on price for supply and fit, and best one i could find was 68quid using genuine skoda pads inc labour and vat....didnt bother getting a price from the dealer, as his mechanics look too young...and knowing what youngsters are like when they get fustrated...i can just imagine a spanner being wacked somewhere on the car...so im taking to this garage who services firms trucks....least he has a superb

rotodiesel · 13-07-2008, 22:58

GSF sell the Textar pads which have precisely the same numbers stamped on the backplates as the OE VAG pads.

I renewed mine whilst the car was in warranty for about £18 (saving the old ones to put back in if I had a "serious" claim) and it takes about 20 mins per side if you work carefully. Dead easy using the correct piston winding tool.

rotodiesel.

johannapam1 · 14-07-2008, 11:49

Thanks Roto but where car mechanics is concerned I am useless - I even struggle to check wheel nuts are tight. That was the problem with my noise. The front NS wheel was loose!!

They have removed all wheel bolts from all wheels and used some copper something or other to lubricate them and then replaced. Car is as good as new now. I do feel sucha fool - I would use stronger language but I may get thrown off the site.
Anyway not too bad and I did want the bolts lubricated as they were very rusted in.

Thanks to all for your comments and recommendations.

Regards

John

Bluefox · 14-07-2008, 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by johannapam1

The front NS wheel was loose!!

Just goes to show, always check your nuts!

(Sorry)

johannapam1 · 14-07-2008, 16:32

Nice one Bluefox

Regards
John

mdk1 · 14-07-2008, 21:24

Glad it's sorted

johannapam1 · 14-07-2008, 21:37

thanks Mike - it does sound better now!!

Regards

John

12-07-2008, 18:10	#1
johannapam1 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 219 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI Hi All Coming home tonight from Brackley I noticed that on the Motorway at around 70mph when I took my foot off the throttle pedal I heard like a droning noise. If I accelerated away the noise went. I took my foot off the throttle and then put the auto in to nuetral and this made no difference - the noise was still there. At first I thought it was road surface noise but after all along M40,M25,M26,M20 i thought not. I then noticed as I came off the Motorway that the noise was there all the time and if I put my foot gently on the brake pedal (say half an inch)the noise got louder. If I braked hard the noise went away. The car drives absolutely normal, performance ok no vibrations or anything - just this "vwom vwom vwom" type droning noise. The only other thing is that before I noticed this noise the hand brake lever had stuck on. I pulled the lever up and down a few times and then it released and I was then able to get under way. Could this have anything to do with this noise??? Anyone any ideas please before I take it to dealers whilst still under warranty? Last edited by johannapam1; 12-07-2008 at 18:58.

12-07-2008, 22:00	#2
mdk1 go green Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rochester, Kent Posts: 3,740 Thanks: 98 Thanked 90 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI Think it might be a trip to Gillingham for you! Sorry don't know what the noise is. Hope it's not to serious, have you looked to see if there is a stone stuck in your pads? __________________ Mike. Mine Skoda Roomster 3 TDI in matallic Anthracite Grey MKLJK Swmbo's Skoda Fabia 2.0I Elegance in Dark matallic Blue MKLJK

12-07-2008, 22:05	#3
Bluefox Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire Posts: 559 Thanks: 10 Thanked 22 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI Wheel bearings? __________________ 2003 Superb Classic TDI 130 - Project Diary - Updated 12/07/08

12-07-2008, 23:20	#5
skodanut Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 119 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI dont think its wheel bearings....as you would feel it through the steering wheel, and even make out what side it was coming from.....but then again your car being different from mine i wouldnt write the possiblity of bearing failure off.....how many miles has your car done? it could be cv joints...or brake pads...either way have a nose around before you take it too the dealers.......let us know what the problem is

13-07-2008, 08:53	#6
johannapam1 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 219 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI The car has done 25000 miles and 3 yrs old in November. The rear pads and disks were replaced by dealer in March. Imust admit the noise is like wheel bearing type rumble from earlier cars I have had with that problem but then there is this hand brake sticking on and the noise after. It certainly seems that the two are connected. I was just thankful I got home ok. Will have a look around today if Im cansee anything simple - but if not then 7am tomorrow morning i will be at Sherlodge Mike!! John

13-07-2008, 09:55	#7
johannapam1 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 219 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI Well - been out to look and can't see anything untoward? car not well though as the noise can now be heard at 15mph and still gets worse when I rest my foot on brake pedal (half inch or so) and seems to go if I brake to stop. I will be at Sherlodge tomorrow morning first thing as i don't feel I can drive it any distance without risk? Thanks for your replies - will update thread as soon as i know what the problem is. John

13-07-2008, 11:03	#8
rotodiesel Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 576 Thanks: 3 Thanked 59 Times in 54 Posts	Re: Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI John, From your description, it does sound like a wheel bearing. If you've had trouble with the hand brake sticking on, the grease may have melted out of a rear wheel bearing. Did the handbrake stick before they changed the pads and disks (disks at 25k miles?!) as there is a design fault with the rear calipers. If the piston is not fully retracted and the inner pad fitted carefully it's possible to trap the dust boot. This results in the brake not releasing properly. It's also possible to fit the pads so that an anti-rattle spring pokes through the window in the caliper rather than preloading the pad as it should. The other favourite malpractice is hitting the disks with a hammer to get them off the hubs when they have rusted on. This Brinnels the bearings and failure will occur shortly afterwards. Not that a VAG dealer would ever do such things... rotodiesel. Last edited by rotodiesel; 13-07-2008 at 11:10.

13-07-2008, 16:06	#9
johannapam1 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 219 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI Thanks Roto - I have only had the hand brake stick this once, never before. Will update as soon as I know more regards John

13-07-2008, 19:31	#10
Baker21 OEM+ SUPERB Join Date: May 2005 Location: Northants Posts: 2,961 Thanks: 2 Thanked 81 Times in 75 Posts	Re: Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI I really hope that this gets sorted mate........... __________________ Best regards, Baker21 - 'OEM+' SKODA SUPERB PD TDI 130 Need you motor 'Detailing'?? Then drop me a PM...

13-07-2008, 21:15	#11
skodanut Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 119 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI having read this thread and suggested a comment, i decided to take all the wheels off and clean them front and back, the inside of the wheels being black with dust and tar deposits, and i noticed my rear pads are looking decidedly thin the car has done approximately 16700 now, and im thinking about getting the rear pads renewed. made enquiries on price for supply and fit, and best one i could find was 68quid using genuine skoda pads inc labour and vat....didnt bother getting a price from the dealer, as his mechanics look too young...and knowing what youngsters are like when they get fustrated...i can just imagine a spanner being wacked somewhere on the car...so im taking to this garage who services firms trucks....least he has a superb

13-07-2008, 22:58	#12
rotodiesel Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 576 Thanks: 3 Thanked 59 Times in 54 Posts	Re: Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI GSF sell the Textar pads which have precisely the same numbers stamped on the backplates as the OE VAG pads. I renewed mine whilst the car was in warranty for about £18 (saving the old ones to put back in if I had a "serious" claim) and it takes about 20 mins per side if you work carefully. Dead easy using the correct piston winding tool. rotodiesel.

14-07-2008, 11:49	#13
johannapam1 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 219 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI Thanks Roto but where car mechanics is concerned I am useless - I even struggle to check wheel nuts are tight. That was the problem with my noise. The front NS wheel was loose!! They have removed all wheel bolts from all wheels and used some copper something or other to lubricate them and then replaced. Car is as good as new now. I do feel sucha fool - I would use stronger language but I may get thrown off the site. Anyway not too bad and I did want the bolts lubricated as they were very rusted in. Thanks to all for your comments and recommendations. Regards John

14-07-2008, 16:32	#15
johannapam1 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 219 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI Nice one Bluefox Regards John

14-07-2008, 21:24	#16
mdk1 go green Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rochester, Kent Posts: 3,740 Thanks: 98 Thanked 90 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI Glad it's sorted __________________ Mike. Mine Skoda Roomster 3 TDI in matallic Anthracite Grey MKLJK Swmbo's Skoda Fabia 2.0I Elegance in Dark matallic Blue MKLJK

14-07-2008, 21:37	#17
johannapam1 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 219 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Noise on my Superb 2.5 TDI thanks Mike - it does sound better now!! Regards John

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