Superb dilemma

Witchfinder · 01-07-2004, 12:39

I've seen a lovely 52 reg Superb Elegance, with 2.8 V6 and a manual gearbox. The price is similar to the current value of my Octavia vRS. I love the vRS, but the Superb would be cheaper to run and insure, and would have a lot more toys. Still, it's a luxo-barge that wouldn't be anywhere near as fast as my Jabba'd Octy, and it certainly wouldn't handle as well.

So what should I do?

**mannyo** · 01-07-2004, 12:42

Id say keep octy, Des tried the superb and went back to octy.

**robmawer** · 01-07-2004, 12:43

Would it be cheaper to run? I can see the insurance being cheaper, but surely fuel cost would be as high if not higher?
I guess the real question is...do you want a fast car or a luxo-barge?

Rob.

Witchfinder · 01-07-2004, 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by robmawer

Would it be cheaper to run? I can see the insurance being cheaper, but surely fuel cost would be as high if not higher?
I guess the real question is...do you want a fast car or a luxo-barge?

Looking at the official figures, it would be similar on fuel compared to what I'm getting now.

What I really want is a fast, good handling luxo-barge

**robmawer** · 01-07-2004, 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witchfinder

What I really want is a fast, good handling luxo-barge

P-reg S8 on Autotrader for less than £13k?

Rob.

psions5 · 01-07-2004, 13:27

Skoda Say the Octy RS is their fastest car, but in top speed the Superb 2.8V6 is marginally quicker, by 1mph

Freakcrab · 01-07-2004, 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by psions5

Skoda Say the Octy RS is their fastest car, but in top speed the Superb 2.8V6 is marginally quicker, by 1mph

You'll be extremely lucky to get 146 out of an Octavia vRS. I believe Autocar only managed to get 136.

Stuart_J · 01-07-2004, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witchfinder

What I really want is a fast, good handling luxo-barge

Sorry to say but you wont get it for Skoda prices, youre looking at a Beemer M5 or similar

**mannyo** · 01-07-2004, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freakcrab

I believe Autocar only managed to get 136.

In your car.

MonkeyHanger · 01-07-2004, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by mannyo

In your car.

WrightyRS · 01-07-2004, 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freakcrab

You'll be extremely lucky to get 146 out of an Octavia vRS. I believe Autocar only managed to get 136.

this statement could open a can of worms!!!!!!

any takers???????

Freakcrab · 01-07-2004, 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by mannyo

In your car.

Yup.

Freakcrab · 01-07-2004, 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrightyRS

this statement could open a can of worms!!!!!!

any takers???????

I've open enough worm cans for one week, I think.
See the YRV discussion.

Kentish · 01-07-2004, 15:53

Having been in a 2.8 Elegance Superb, it was very nice. However even with a very mild drive the fuel economy was appalling (for someone like me).
If your considering a Superb then the pd130 or V6 TDI is the best options.

Going on your current choice options I would stick with the Octy.

***DGW*** · 01-07-2004, 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freakcrab

You'll be extremely lucky to get 146 out of an Octavia vRS. I believe Autocar only managed to get 136.

144 in the copy I'm looking at.

Skoda quote a maximim speed of 235km/h (146mph) and 7.9 secs for 0-100km/h for the Octavia vRS BUT the performance figures are measured without the vehicle being fitted with any equipment such as air conditioning, mud flaps, which affect the performance.

**delcac** · 01-07-2004, 19:19

Go with the Superb and be very very very very sorry.

Freakcrab · 01-07-2004, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGW

144 in the copy I'm looking at.

Skoda quote a maximim speed of 235km/h (146mph) and 7.9 secs for 0-100km/h for the Octavia vRS BUT the performance figures are measured without the vehicle being fitted with any equipment such as air conditioning, mud flaps, which affect the performance.

Right enough. 144 not quite up to Skoda's figures no doubt due to the car having mudflaps.

Oh, and stick with the Octavia. The superb is no sports saloon and the Octavia RS is a pretty comfy cruiser when you're not in the mood for fast driving.

Witchfinder · 01-07-2004, 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by delcac

Go with the Superb and be very very very very sorry.

Hmmm, and this is from a man who knows personally. I've had another look at the car and I think it has a cream interior anyway which I just couldn't live with. One of the reasons I was thinking of swapping was the vRS interior is too light!

Mrs Witchfinder has also had her say and she (surprisingly) didn't like the idea. Plan cancelled. Thanks all for your suggestions.

PetRaN · 03-07-2004, 09:09

you ask for opinions where the are no superb owners...

well, here is my opinion...

superb is a luxury car for a bargain price

with 1.8t motor on it, you can go and modify it let's say with k04 turbo and reach 270-280 horsepower.

thats fast..

the stability on high speeds (with a set of shocks of course) is exeptional because the car is so long

the level of comfort, space and elegance cannot be found in any octavia, as well as in many many cars that cost around the superb's money

the current model wont change for another five years

I do not claim that cheap humble superb is a sporty luxury car, but if you are on a budget it is close enough to it, with the appropriate mods of course..

I have raced many friends of mine driving octy's and everytime they look to me with wide open eyeballs in disbelief

the above pic is old and I only had Abt program installed..not top speed by all means..

dont think that octy's are faster, cause they aint..

***DGW*** · 03-07-2004, 09:14

Ignoring speedo error, the 248kph indicated equates to 154mph! Not bad. That's a nice-looking car, PetRaN.

PetRaN · 03-07-2004, 09:27

thank you DGW

well as you all well know, when the speedo shows 255, it really means 20-25km/h less

it might do real 255 though...i have seen 270km on the thing , I didnt have the camera in hand though..

on september i plan to put a real big turbo..

when the operation is complete, I could post here the whole story...

pearce_jj · 03-07-2004, 09:35

that car looks fantastic, imho - especially like the chrome

**robmawer** · 03-07-2004, 09:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by PetRaN

Dare I ask how you took that picture?!

Awesome car...

Rob.

Huck · 03-07-2004, 09:46

love the car petran, looks gorgeous!

what are your mods so far?

PetRaN · 03-07-2004, 10:07

of course I took the picture, rob

huck, not many things..
I was investigating what is best to do with the car, and I also waited to find out
if I am happy enough with it to spend more on it, so I havent done much engine stuff until now...

eibach/bilstein sprint's (2,5cm lowered)
sportec 18's with goodyear F1 gd3, 225/40 front, 255/35 back
abt program, N75H valve, 710P div.valve (from rs6), k&n filter
ebc green brake pads and dot 5.1 fluids..

I think thats about it

I will go and install a nice big fmic and a 76mm exaust some time next week,
and from september the car will be fitted with a very nice quick-spooling IHI turbo

View Poll Results: What should the Witchfinder do?
Ditch the Octavia vRS and get the Superb	26	59.09%
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Neither - post suggestions	1	2.27%
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01-07-2004, 12:39	#1
Witchfinder Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Wheelspinning 'round the wet roads of Manchester Posts: 1,284 Members Car: 2004 Ford Mondeo ST220 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Superb dilemma I've seen a lovely 52 reg Superb Elegance, with 2.8 V6 and a manual gearbox. The price is similar to the current value of my Octavia vRS. I love the vRS, but the Superb would be cheaper to run and insure, and would have a lot more toys. Still, it's a luxo-barge that wouldn't be anywhere near as fast as my Jabba'd Octy, and it certainly wouldn't handle as well. So what should I do? __________________ Rob Illing Play Interstellar War: "Fleet Battles" and "Conquest" for free! The ST220 has landed! Die Micra, Die!

01-07-2004, 12:42	#2
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,476 Members Car: Octavia 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 58 Thanked 362 Times in 333 Posts	Id say keep octy, Des tried the superb and went back to octy. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

01-07-2004, 12:43	#3
robmawer Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rochdale Posts: 12,476 Members Car: Octavia 1.6 Ambiente Thanks: 2 Thanked 74 Times in 67 Posts	Would it be cheaper to run? I can see the insurance being cheaper, but surely fuel cost would be as high if not higher? I guess the real question is...do you want a fast car or a luxo-barge? Rob. __________________

01-07-2004, 13:27	#6
psions5 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bedfordshire, England Posts: 304 Members Car: New Octavia Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Skoda Say the Octy RS is their fastest car, but in top speed the Superb 2.8V6 is marginally quicker, by 1mph __________________ New Octavia 1.6 8v MPI, Sure the FSI is faster, but Im not a tree hugging economist hippie

01-07-2004, 15:53	#14
Kentish Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,245 Members Car: 4 wheels, 4 doors. Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts	Having been in a 2.8 Elegance Superb, it was very nice. However even with a very mild drive the fuel economy was appalling (for someone like me). If your considering a Superb then the pd130 or V6 TDI is the best options. Going on your current choice options I would stick with the Octy. __________________ Andy Owner of a sense of humour.

01-07-2004, 19:19	#16
delcac Still a **** Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chatham, Kent Posts: 7,396 Members Car: A red one Images: 3 Thanks: 17 Thanked 70 Times in 55 Posts	Go with the Superb and be very very very very sorry. __________________ The Red Devil Last edited by delcac; 01-07-2004 at 22:07.

03-07-2004, 09:09	#19
PetRaN Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 118 Members Car: Superb Abt Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	you ask for opinions where the are no superb owners... well, here is my opinion... superb is a luxury car for a bargain price with 1.8t motor on it, you can go and modify it let's say with k04 turbo and reach 270-280 horsepower. thats fast.. the stability on high speeds (with a set of shocks of course) is exeptional because the car is so long the level of comfort, space and elegance cannot be found in any octavia, as well as in many many cars that cost around the superb's money the current model wont change for another five years I do not claim that cheap humble superb is a sporty luxury car, but if you are on a budget it is close enough to it, with the appropriate mods of course.. I have raced many friends of mine driving octy's and everytime they look to me with wide open eyeballs in disbelief the above pic is old and I only had Abt program installed..not top speed by all means.. dont think that octy's are faster, cause they aint.. __________________

03-07-2004, 09:14	#20
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,300 Members Car: Octavia 1.8T 4X4 Estate & Fabia vRS Thanks: 51 Thanked 208 Times in 157 Posts	Ignoring speedo error, the 248kph indicated equates to 154mph! Not bad. That's a nice-looking car, PetRaN. __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.57 mpg...

03-07-2004, 09:27	#21
PetRaN Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 118 Members Car: Superb Abt Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thank you DGW well as you all well know, when the speedo shows 255, it really means 20-25km/h less it might do real 255 though...i have seen 270km on the thing , I didnt have the camera in hand though.. on september i plan to put a real big turbo.. when the operation is complete, I could post here the whole story... __________________

03-07-2004, 09:35	#22
pearce_jj Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maidstone, Kent Posts: 275 Members Car: Octavia 1.8t auto Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	that car looks fantastic, imho - especially like the chrome

03-07-2004, 09:46	#24
Huck Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NW England Posts: 2,276 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	love the car petran, looks gorgeous! what are your mods so far? __________________ Huck B.

03-07-2004, 10:07	#25
PetRaN Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 118 Members Car: Superb Abt Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	of course I took the picture, rob huck, not many things.. I was investigating what is best to do with the car, and I also waited to find out if I am happy enough with it to spend more on it, so I havent done much engine stuff until now... eibach/bilstein sprint's (2,5cm lowered) sportec 18's with goodyear F1 gd3, 225/40 front, 255/35 back abt program, N75H valve, 710P div.valve (from rs6), k&n filter ebc green brake pads and dot 5.1 fluids.. I think thats about it I will go and install a nice big fmic and a 76mm exaust some time next week, and from september the car will be fitted with a very nice quick-spooling IHI turbo __________________

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