Superb interior lights not working?

Billy Balthorpe · 09-10-2006, 21:16

For some reason all of the interior lights except the two above the two rear doors have stopped working. The two front map reading lights near the rear veiw mirror and the red lights in the doors have all stopped working.

I've checked all of the fuses and theres none blown. I think fuse 14 is the suspect one but its ok.

Anyone got any ideas??

superb555 · 10-10-2006, 07:44

I have got exactly the same problem and the garae says bring it in and we will look at it i have a thought it may be the door switch any ideas from yourself or others
S55 5NOB

superb555 · 10-10-2006, 08:28

Hi All,
Just clocked 1st problems with my Superb. Front interior lights and boot light don't illuminate any more when door open or lights manually turned on. Cat eye light's OK but interior map reading lights don't work either. Not checked fuses yet.
Also, the passenger rear footwell has a pint or two of rain water in it!

Anyone suggest if the two might be related, and what the likely cause of the leak is? Blocked drainage?

Any help much appreciated.
Ric

stopan1j · 10-10-2006, 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by superb555

Hi All,
Just clocked 1st problems with my Superb. Front interior lights and boot light don't illuminate any more when door open or lights manually turned on. Cat eye light's OK but interior map reading lights don't work either. Not checked fuses yet.
Also, the passenger rear footwell has a pint or two of rain water in it!

Anyone suggest if the two might be related, and what the likely cause of the leak is? Blocked drainage?

Any help much appreciated.
Ric

Yes, do a bit of a search you will find its well discussed likely to be pollen Filter area letting the water in, and a waterlogged corroded wire joint in the cabeling under the carpet . IIRC the joint can be remade and the problem solved after solving the leak, can be expensive if the cabelling is rotted elsewhere and a new loom is required IIRC. Common on Passats also

Baker21 · 10-10-2006, 10:29

This problem seems to crop up quite regularly, I really hope that mine does not develop this issue.

pete1234 · 10-10-2006, 19:08

Hi,Check previous threads, Boarding Lights, and Help! Wet footwell/no lights,
this problem is well covered in these threads,
Good luck, Pete.

bryanp · 10-10-2006, 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Balthorpe

For some reason all of the interior lights except the two above the two rear doors have stopped working. The two front map reading lights near the rear veiw mirror and the red lights in the doors have all stopped working.

I've checked all of the fuses and theres none blown. I think fuse 14 is the suspect one but its ok.

Anyone got any ideas??

Hi, I had exactly the same prob with my 02 1.8T superb earlier this year, took it to my local dealer (Farmers Skoda) who very quickly diagnosed it was what has been already sudgested a water leak from around the pollen filter, apparently it leaks down under the passenger carpet and corrodes a node modual. Turns out mine may have been damaged on the production line and because I have a full Skoda service history Skoda were willing to meet 75% of the repair bill, now you may need to sit down, this equated to £375 with me owing about £100, fortunately the nice people at Farmers Skoda were happy enough that the Skoda £375 would cover their labour and parts costs that they dropped the £100 pounds I owed, bit of a result and something I urge you follow with your dealer!
Good Luck mate BryanP

superb555 · 11-10-2006, 22:52

Well to add more to this last night i dragged the rear footwell carpet up to find soggy underlay and a completely corroded "node" i repaired this but still the lights did not work so i looked a bit deeper and discovered a complete butchers job on the wiring loom strange crimps and yellow sticky tape all over.
for most of the length from the back foot well to the front foot well.
I have never had the car in for anything electrical apart from once in the last few weeks when the alram kept going off.
I am bemused when this has been carried out and by what cowboy either.
I am not happy but cannot prove who where or when.
The interior lights are still not working and it is going into the garage now to fix it and i will get them to sort the leak out as well

I think these say it all........
S55 5NOB
An Ipswich based Superb if you see me flash me.

johnjohnhealy · 11-10-2006, 23:06

Mine hasn't suffered with this particular issue yet (suprisingly) but given my cars track record it's only a matter of time!

Does anyone know of a cure to stop this happening in the first place? or do Skoda just put them back the same so it can happen again?

Billy Balthorpe · 12-10-2006, 23:19

Right then, carpets up tomorrow. When i thought about this i realised that the problem never appeared untill the rear footwell collected with water one morning. When i bought the car a few weeks ago it worked perfectly.

If i disconnect the battery will i have to re-enter a code on the (standard elegance) stereo?

landwomble · 12-10-2006, 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by superb555

Well to add more to this last night i dragged the rear footwell carpet up to find soggy underlay and a completely corroded "node" i repaired this but still the lights did not work so i looked a bit deeper and discovered a complete butchers job on the wiring loom strange crimps and yellow sticky tape all over.
for most of the length from the back foot well to the front foot well.
I have never had the car in for anything electrical apart from once in the last few weeks when the alram kept going off.
I am bemused when this has been carried out and by what cowboy either.
I am not happy but cannot prove who where or when.
The interior lights are still not working and it is going into the garage now to fix it and i will get them to sort the leak out as well

I think these say it all........
S55 5NOB
An Ipswich based Superb if you see me flash me.

it's a bitch to sort out - do on warranty if you can. warranty will also replace carpets which can go mouldy otherwise months later.
happens to most superbs and most passats at some point.
KEEP THOSE ENGINE BAY GUTTERS CLEAN!

ric

if you were in m/c i'd wonder if horner's had had a go at it...

Billy Balthorpe · 13-10-2006, 21:54

How the hell do you et the carpets up???

It looks like the carpet is all in one peice, then everything is bolted down on top of it. Do you have to take the back seat out? If so how?
I can get the edges up but not the full carpet so i can find this "node" thingy.

On another matter, GSF in Derby gave me the wrong air filter today even after i took in the service book and the owners manual which lists the engine number etc.

I phoned them when i found out, and, following the suggestion that they send me the proper one and i send them the old one back, they said that it "doesnt work like that" and that they couldnt help. So its a 35 mile trip to derby tomorrow to get it changed. Thanks GSF, youre a bunch of *****.

mdk1 · 14-10-2006, 03:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Balthorpe

So its a 35 mile trip to derby tomorrow to get it changed. Thanks GSF, youre a bunch of *****.

Why not combine with atrip to the Cat & Fiddle meet

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/north...-2006-a/62213/

superb555 · 17-10-2006, 22:19

Morning all,
Just to keep you good folks up to date on this on going saga, I have just got my Superb back interior lights now ablaze when they should be, but and here is the BIG but the radio now does not turn of when the ignition key is withdrawn, the central locking does not deadlock, the digital clock and trip meter reset every time i start the car and the central locking now locks of it's own accord when it feels like it, seems like they did a good job for a mere £200 more or less doesn't.
So here is this weeks competition, guess who is not best pleased......

Any suggestions ???????????

landwomble · 17-10-2006, 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by superb555

Morning all,
Just to keep you good folks up to date on this on going saga, I have just got my Superb back interior lights now ablaze when they should be, but and here is the BIG but the radio now does not turn of when the ignition key is withdrawn, the central locking does not deadlock, the digital clock and trip meter reset every time i start the car and the central locking now locks of it's own accord when it feels like it, seems like they did a good job for a mere £200 more or less doesn't.
So here is this weeks competition, guess who is not best pleased......

Any suggestions ???????????

yes, go back to them and tell them in no uncertain terms to DO IT PROPERLY!
I had this with horners manchester (shower of cvnts, don't deal with them despite previous good feedback as they're completely ****e now).
the convenience unit controls everything such as coding key to car, anti hijack, etc. THEY SHOULD KNOW THIS unless they're clueless, drooling monkeys. Did you go to Horners? If not, perhaps they've been training someone at other dealerships.

I'd put money on a) them having not replaced your convenience unit, just cleaning up the contacts and leaving a crappy damp wiring loom that intermittently does all sorts, and
b) not having the wit to realise that all your spare keys need to be brought in for recoding, antihijack reenabled etc.

not that i'm bitter, or anything!

ric

Baker21 · 18-10-2006, 08:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by landwomble

yes, go back to them and tell them in no uncertain terms to DO IT PROPERLY!

Yep, I would take this line of conversation with them mate.

One of the reasons I don't deal with dealer's anymore, they are 'fitter's' and not 'mechanic's'!!!

superb555 · 18-10-2006, 10:29

Car is back in there now with lots of head scratching from them hey ho !!!!

superb555 · 19-10-2006, 07:19

Final piece in the puzzle they claim a fuse had gone !!!!! I don't think so.
Any way SNOB is back up and running, now just for the MOT in 2 weeks lol.

miko01 · 06-11-2006, 18:00

Hi all

Have not posted since last summer (left hand Xenon not coming on first time,MOT tester at Jacksons,B'Stoke failed it on this.Then spent next month with Jackson's/Skoda M'Keynes trying to solve - thought they did,but now doing the same thing in these dark mornings (5.30am start and Xenon's left hand light comes on after 3/4 goes)).

Anyway,as with you guys,ALL interior lights except cats eyes and rear passengers ones not working,inc boot.No lights on when blipping with remote,no wing mirror lights either,but the interior handle lights - those lovely white lights! - do also work.
With the dark evenings and early morning starts,having no lights is a real bu..er!
Took the car into Jackson's last week and they spent at least 60 mins trying to solve to no avail,and then told me they were in receivership - very bad news for all involved and I hope they can navigate themselves out of trouble and have a job.
They suggested it could be the convenience pack unit under the passenger footwell and to book it in ASAP (assuming they are still in business).
This website is amazing in at least knowing that others are suffering the same thing.
Interestingly,I bought the Superb (2.5 tdi elegance '03) 2nd hand from Aldershot dealer in July '05 and the edges of the front carpet mats had a darker stain around them - could this be a result of damp -bought the car at 8,500 miles on clock for £12,500 (!!!).
I have just rejoined the RAC this evening,but as I have said before - Briskoda IS the 4th emergency service.
By the way,Jacksons are a very good co' - how can they get into trouble with selling Skoda's?
Regards to all
Mike

landwomble · 06-11-2006, 20:26

it's *definitely* either convenience unit or wiring loom under seat. most likely both. these aren't cheap to replace (about 200 in parts at least) and you'll need a garage with vag com to code up the door locks etc afterwards...

amh · 07-11-2006, 20:27

a ha I think you may have explained the problem with mine by reading through this thread prehaps you could confirm.

The following things did stop working:
Interior lights
Buzzer for when the lights are on when the key is out and door open
Central Locking
Electric Windows

It went to the garage and they said convenience unit may be falty yet they seem to have fixed all bar the central locking.

Does this mean from reading through the thread that if I can just get them to use the VAG COM they can recode the doors to fix the central locking?

And then should I check far damp and the drainage holes mentioned being blocked?

Cheers

landwomble · 07-11-2006, 23:05

exactly right, convenience unit contains coding for convenience features like antihijack, coding of all your car keys to the car, and probably quite a few other things. you can probably sort it with vagcom if you know what you're doing, although suspect coding the keys to the car requires some car-specific PIN code...?

dlysnes · 31-05-2007, 18:30

Hello from Norway!
Please bear with my bad english...

I also had footwells full of water this winter. Drainage below battery clogged...

Anyway, I've got most of the lights working again when I fixed the node under the mat behind the driver seat, but a couple things doesn't work:
- Remote controlled door lock doesn't work, central locking is OK when I use the key and the button on the door panel. This was on and of until it finally one day didn't work at all.

- Cat eyes under wing mirrors and ceiling lights doesn't turn on when doors open and car is unlocked. I guess these to are connected together since they fade out simultaniously.
The interior ceiling lights all work when I turn them on manually.

All the other lights in footwells etc does work when doors open, but not the ceiling lights.

So, my question to you guys is:
Does anyone know where the relay/dimmer/fader for wing mirror cat eyes and ceiling lights is located? Are these controlled from the CU under the driver seat? I'm about to get a new CU to fix the remote control problem.

Thanx in advance for all answers!
Regards,
David

superb555 · 01-06-2007, 08:08

HI all before you go changing any bits, i suffered from this problem with wet footwells for months no thankfully my dealership ah bless them have sorted it and dired my car out but they did find other wires corroded that had not shown up initially faults were along the same lines as yours so get some one to dig into it a bit deeper for you.
Cheers
SNOB

Seloco · 06-08-2007, 17:36

My new Superb 2.5TDI was delivered in March without the interior lights working, although this was not discovered by the PDI nor by me until I got home. When I took it back the dealer quickly identified the need for a replacement convenience control module, and this was duly replaced under warranty (although the dealer did fail to realise that the spare remote control key would also need to be recoded).

Just over four months later the lights have stopped working again, and again the need for a replacement CCM has been diagnosed - it is now on order. Naturally I am beginning to wonder whether there is a more general problem with these modules - has anyone else needed to replace more than one module on a new car?

09-10-2006, 21:16	#1
Billy Balthorpe Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Staffs Posts: 100 Members Car: Superb Elegance Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Superb interior lights not working? For some reason all of the interior lights except the two above the two rear doors have stopped working. The two front map reading lights near the rear veiw mirror and the red lights in the doors have all stopped working. I've checked all of the fuses and theres none blown. I think fuse 14 is the suspect one but its ok. Anyone got any ideas??

10-10-2006, 07:44	#2
superb555 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ipswich Posts: 117 Members Car: Superb 1.9 elegance Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Superb interior lights not working? I have got exactly the same problem and the garae says bring it in and we will look at it i have a thought it may be the door switch any ideas from yourself or others S55 5NOB

10-10-2006, 08:28	#3
superb555 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ipswich Posts: 117 Members Car: Superb 1.9 elegance Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Superb interior lights not working? Hi All, Just clocked 1st problems with my Superb. Front interior lights and boot light don't illuminate any more when door open or lights manually turned on. Cat eye light's OK but interior map reading lights don't work either. Not checked fuses yet. Also, the passenger rear footwell has a pint or two of rain water in it! Anyone suggest if the two might be related, and what the likely cause of the leak is? Blocked drainage? Any help much appreciated. Ric

10-10-2006, 10:29	#5
Baker21 OEM+ SUPERB Join Date: May 2005 Location: Northants Posts: 3,148 Members Car: Skoda Superb PD TDI 130 Comfort Thanks: 2 Thanked 102 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Superb interior lights not working? This problem seems to crop up quite regularly, I really hope that mine does not develop this issue. __________________ Best regards, Baker21 - 'OEM+' SKODA SUPERB PD TDI 130 Need you motor 'Detailing'?? Then drop me a PM...

10-10-2006, 19:08	#6
pete1234 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 58 Members Car: Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Superb interior lights not working? Hi,Check previous threads, Boarding Lights, and Help! Wet footwell/no lights, this problem is well covered in these threads, Good luck, Pete.

11-10-2006, 22:52	#8
superb555 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ipswich Posts: 117 Members Car: Superb 1.9 elegance Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Superb interior lights not working? Well to add more to this last night i dragged the rear footwell carpet up to find soggy underlay and a completely corroded "node" i repaired this but still the lights did not work so i looked a bit deeper and discovered a complete butchers job on the wiring loom strange crimps and yellow sticky tape all over. for most of the length from the back foot well to the front foot well. I have never had the car in for anything electrical apart from once in the last few weeks when the alram kept going off. I am bemused when this has been carried out and by what cowboy either. I am not happy but cannot prove who where or when. The interior lights are still not working and it is going into the garage now to fix it and i will get them to sort the leak out as well I think these say it all........ S55 5NOB An Ipswich based Superb if you see me flash me.

11-10-2006, 23:06	#9
johnjohnhealy Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK south east Posts: 2,428 Members Car: Superb 130pd Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Superb interior lights not working? Mine hasn't suffered with this particular issue yet (suprisingly) but given my cars track record it's only a matter of time! Does anyone know of a cure to stop this happening in the first place? or do Skoda just put them back the same so it can happen again?

12-10-2006, 23:19	#10
Billy Balthorpe Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Staffs Posts: 100 Members Car: Superb Elegance Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Superb interior lights not working? Right then, carpets up tomorrow. When i thought about this i realised that the problem never appeared untill the rear footwell collected with water one morning. When i bought the car a few weeks ago it worked perfectly. If i disconnect the battery will i have to re-enter a code on the (standard elegance) stereo?

13-10-2006, 21:54	#12
Billy Balthorpe Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Staffs Posts: 100 Members Car: Superb Elegance Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Superb interior lights not working? How the hell do you et the carpets up??? It looks like the carpet is all in one peice, then everything is bolted down on top of it. Do you have to take the back seat out? If so how? I can get the edges up but not the full carpet so i can find this "node" thingy. On another matter, GSF in Derby gave me the wrong air filter today even after i took in the service book and the owners manual which lists the engine number etc. I phoned them when i found out, and, following the suggestion that they send me the proper one and i send them the old one back, they said that it "doesnt work like that" and that they couldnt help. So its a 35 mile trip to derby tomorrow to get it changed. Thanks GSF, youre a bunch of *****.

17-10-2006, 22:19	#14
superb555 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ipswich Posts: 117 Members Car: Superb 1.9 elegance Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Superb interior lights not working? Morning all, Just to keep you good folks up to date on this on going saga, I have just got my Superb back interior lights now ablaze when they should be, but and here is the BIG but the radio now does not turn of when the ignition key is withdrawn, the central locking does not deadlock, the digital clock and trip meter reset every time i start the car and the central locking now locks of it's own accord when it feels like it, seems like they did a good job for a mere £200 more or less doesn't. So here is this weeks competition, guess who is not best pleased...... Any suggestions ???????????

18-10-2006, 10:29	#17
superb555 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ipswich Posts: 117 Members Car: Superb 1.9 elegance Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Superb interior lights not working? Car is back in there now with lots of head scratching from them hey ho !!!!

19-10-2006, 07:19	#18
superb555 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ipswich Posts: 117 Members Car: Superb 1.9 elegance Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Superb interior lights not working? Final piece in the puzzle they claim a fuse had gone !!!!! I don't think so. Any way SNOB is back up and running, now just for the MOT in 2 weeks lol.

06-11-2006, 18:00	#19
miko01 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SE Posts: 35 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Superb interior lights not working? Hi all Have not posted since last summer (left hand Xenon not coming on first time,MOT tester at Jacksons,B'Stoke failed it on this.Then spent next month with Jackson's/Skoda M'Keynes trying to solve - thought they did,but now doing the same thing in these dark mornings (5.30am start and Xenon's left hand light comes on after 3/4 goes)). Anyway,as with you guys,ALL interior lights except cats eyes and rear passengers ones not working,inc boot.No lights on when blipping with remote,no wing mirror lights either,but the interior handle lights - those lovely white lights! - do also work. With the dark evenings and early morning starts,having no lights is a real bu..er! Took the car into Jackson's last week and they spent at least 60 mins trying to solve to no avail,and then told me they were in receivership - very bad news for all involved and I hope they can navigate themselves out of trouble and have a job. They suggested it could be the convenience pack unit under the passenger footwell and to book it in ASAP (assuming they are still in business). This website is amazing in at least knowing that others are suffering the same thing. Interestingly,I bought the Superb (2.5 tdi elegance '03) 2nd hand from Aldershot dealer in July '05 and the edges of the front carpet mats had a darker stain around them - could this be a result of damp -bought the car at 8,500 miles on clock for £12,500 (!!!). I have just rejoined the RAC this evening,but as I have said before - Briskoda IS the 4th emergency service. By the way,Jacksons are a very good co' - how can they get into trouble with selling Skoda's? Regards to all Mike

06-11-2006, 20:26	#20
landwomble Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North West UK Posts: 459 Members Car: Skoda Superb PD130 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Superb interior lights not working? it's definitely either convenience unit or wiring loom under seat. most likely both. these aren't cheap to replace (about 200 in parts at least) and you'll need a garage with vag com to code up the door locks etc afterwards... __________________

07-11-2006, 20:27	#21
amh Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 41 Members Car: Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Superb interior lights not working? a ha I think you may have explained the problem with mine by reading through this thread prehaps you could confirm. The following things did stop working: Interior lights Buzzer for when the lights are on when the key is out and door open Central Locking Electric Windows It went to the garage and they said convenience unit may be falty yet they seem to have fixed all bar the central locking. Does this mean from reading through the thread that if I can just get them to use the VAG COM they can recode the doors to fix the central locking? And then should I check far damp and the drainage holes mentioned being blocked? Cheers

07-11-2006, 23:05	#22
landwomble Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North West UK Posts: 459 Members Car: Skoda Superb PD130 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Superb interior lights not working? exactly right, convenience unit contains coding for convenience features like antihijack, coding of all your car keys to the car, and probably quite a few other things. you can probably sort it with vagcom if you know what you're doing, although suspect coding the keys to the car requires some car-specific PIN code...? __________________

31-05-2007, 18:30	#23
dlysnes Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Larvik, Norway Posts: 21 Members Car: Skoda Superb 1,9 TDI 130 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Wing mirror cat eyes and ceiling lights relay..? Hello from Norway! Please bear with my bad english... I also had footwells full of water this winter. Drainage below battery clogged... Anyway, I've got most of the lights working again when I fixed the node under the mat behind the driver seat, but a couple things doesn't work: - Remote controlled door lock doesn't work, central locking is OK when I use the key and the button on the door panel. This was on and of until it finally one day didn't work at all. - Cat eyes under wing mirrors and ceiling lights doesn't turn on when doors open and car is unlocked. I guess these to are connected together since they fade out simultaniously. The interior ceiling lights all work when I turn them on manually. All the other lights in footwells etc does work when doors open, but not the ceiling lights. So, my question to you guys is: Does anyone know where the relay/dimmer/fader for wing mirror cat eyes and ceiling lights is located? Are these controlled from the CU under the driver seat? I'm about to get a new CU to fix the remote control problem. Thanx in advance for all answers! Regards, David

01-06-2007, 08:08	#24
superb555 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ipswich Posts: 117 Members Car: Superb 1.9 elegance Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Superb interior lights not working? HI all before you go changing any bits, i suffered from this problem with wet footwells for months no thankfully my dealership ah bless them have sorted it and dired my car out but they did find other wires corroded that had not shown up initially faults were along the same lines as yours so get some one to dig into it a bit deeper for you. Cheers SNOB

06-08-2007, 17:36	#25
Seloco Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 17 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Superb interior lights not working? My new Superb 2.5TDI was delivered in March without the interior lights working, although this was not discovered by the PDI nor by me until I got home. When I took it back the dealer quickly identified the need for a replacement convenience control module, and this was duly replaced under warranty (although the dealer did fail to realise that the spare remote control key would also need to be recoded). Just over four months later the lights have stopped working again, and again the need for a replacement CCM has been diagnosed - it is now on order. Naturally I am beginning to wonder whether there is a more general problem with these modules - has anyone else needed to replace more than one module on a new car?

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