Suspension lowering question?

Bluefox · 27-08-2008, 08:38

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Originally Posted by Baker21

I run spacers on my motor and have never had any problems with them as long as you have hubcentric ones with the correct length wheel bolts......

Hm! Spacers! I'd forgotten about those!

Baker21 · 27-08-2008, 08:48

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Originally Posted by Bluefox

Hm! Spacers! I'd forgotten about those!

Ran them when using the Solids mate and I would recommend them, inccidently I will PM you something shortly as I have an idea...........

allclownsareevi · 27-08-2008, 09:49

Bluefox:
Cheers man. I like the way both you and Baker described the alloys as a "brave choice". Don't know if that's a diplomatic reply but I like them well enough.

I've only heard good things about the Eibach's. I guessed they'd drop a little lower after they've bedded in a little but it shouldn't be by too much and the ride is pretty good so far. I'll let you know how they go after a while. Like I said before, I never wanted the car to look as unique as yours or Baker's. To be fair your motors look something special, more customised maybe? I'll inflate your ego's and even go so far to say "cooler"

.... but that's not the look I wanted for this car. I just wanted it to sit better, a more squatted stance. As for the rest of it I just wanted it quietly understated. I'm 32 now mate and I don't reckon I can pull off cool anymore. Just doesn't happen once you hit 30.

Since lowering it, two lads thought it was an Audi and on second thoughts it kinda does resemble one. Maybe Andy's alloys help out on that front.

Baker:
Yeah cheers man. The alloys look better in the flesh somehow. Have to admit some spacers to kick the wheels out a few mm would help. If I ever get around to fitting some, that'll most likely be it on the looks front. Reasonably happy with the way it looks right now. Out of curiosity what distance did you throw the wheels out on your motor?

.... although I do have a friend who does custom paint jobs on car and he reckons he owes me a few favours .... custom flamed paintjob down the sides anyone?

Incidentally, some idiot drove into the back of me the other day, dented the boot lid and a minor scratch on the bumper. Not best pleased but it looks like the damage is repairable. A few hundred quid should get it sorted hopefully. It's a bugger but often the way when you get a new toy.

Baker21 · 27-08-2008, 10:50

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Originally Posted by allclownsareevi

Baker:
Yeah cheers man. The alloys look better in the flesh somehow. Have to admit some spacers to kick the wheels out a few mm would help. If I ever get around to fitting some, that'll most likely be it on the looks front. Reasonably happy with the way it looks right now. Out of curiosity what distance did you throw the wheels out on your motor?

I have had various spacers since I have owned the Superb but it all comes down to what ET your running?

What ET are those wheels you have got on?

I am running 15mm Hubcentric Spacers on the front at the moment on ET 35 with 8.5J wheels and none on the rear with ET35 and 9.5J wheels, kind of wish I would have sourced two sets or 9.5J wheels but that wasn't an option at the time...........

Bluefox · 27-08-2008, 12:49

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Originally Posted by allclownsareevi

Bluefox:
Cheers man. I like the way both you and Baker described the alloys as a "brave choice". Don't know if that's a diplomatic reply but I like them well enough.

I've only heard good things about the Eibach's. I guessed they'd drop a little lower after they've bedded in a little but it shouldn't be by too much and the ride is pretty good so far. I'll let you know how they go after a while. Like I said before, I never wanted the car to look as unique as yours or Baker's. To be fair your motors look something special, more customised maybe? I'll inflate your ego's and even go so far to say "cooler"

.... but that's not the look I wanted for this car. I just wanted it to sit better, a more squatted stance. As for the rest of it I just wanted it quietly understated. I'm 32 now mate and I don't reckon I can pull off cool anymore. Just doesn't happen once you hit 30.

Since lowering it, two lads thought it was an Audi and on second thoughts it kinda does resemble one. Maybe Andy's alloys help out on that front.

They are brave - it's not that I don't like them because I think I do. I just think it's totally different from what has effectively been tried and tested on cars like the Superb for years. See cleaned.be for example.

Top marks for trying something different through

Thanks for the comments about the car as well, appreciate that as I'm sure will Baker. My car's no where near as "unique" as Bakers but I'm pleased with the way it looks

Regarding the springs... I agree, nothing but praise for Eibach. As I said earlier I plumped for KW as they were slightly lower, and I like the fact a lot of people in VW circles swear by KW including many of my work collagues. Oh, and Eibach were out of stock at the time

allclownsareevi · 27-08-2008, 16:16

Baker:

The alloys are 17" * 7.5J * ET45. Just thought a set of spacers might poke the wheels out a little and give it a more meaty footing. Ok it's a minor thing but something I may do one day when I'm feeling sorry for myself .... or just when I get bored browsing the net.

BlueFox:

Cheers for the comment man. Yeah yours and Bakers will turn heads. I mean they look somewhat different, so much so it's noticeable, in a good way I mean. With mine you'd pretty much have to actually be looking for evidence of lowering etc etc. With this motor that's kind of how I wanted it. Incidentally, how is the ride on the KW's you have? I didn't go for them because I was concerned they may make it way too hard and bumpy ... but I was sorely tempted by the 40mm drop. Happy enough with the Eibach's but still interested to see what you think of yours.

Baker21 · 27-08-2008, 16:23

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Originally Posted by allclownsareevi

Baker:

The alloys are 17" * 7.5J * ET45. Just thought a set of spacers might poke the wheels out a little and give it a more meaty footing. Ok it's a minor thing but something I may do one day when I'm feeling sorry for myself .... or just when I get bored browsing the net.

ET45...........hmmm..........you would definately benefit from some spacers then mate, ET45 means that the wheels sit well into the arches so with some 15mm spacers you would have a nice 'poke' on the wheels........

Bluefox · 27-08-2008, 21:48

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Originally Posted by allclownsareevi

Incidentally, how is the ride on the KW's you have?

It's a peach. It's not really any different from standard if I'm at all honest, except the handling's improved. That said it's been a long time since I've driven a Superb with standard suspension.

Perhaps we should swap for a short test drive, lol... I'd be interested to see how Baker's feels.

allclownsareevi · 27-08-2008, 22:13

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Perhaps we should swap for a short test drive, lol... I'd be interested to see how Baker's feels.

Sure I'm up for that. As for Baker's, I reckon he works for the Highways Agency, seeing which cats-eyes are fitted correctly. It's a highly developed skill but he can determine which are faulty by how they kiss his backside as he drives over them.

th4neuk · 27-08-2008, 23:33

That Looks really good, I like it. Great colour too.

Heres a Pic of Carolyn's at the mo

Might have to give a set of the eibachs a try. Hopefully shouldn't cause problems with the towing front.

Are they slightly stiffer as well as lower??

Cheers

Bluefox · 28-08-2008, 08:09

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Originally Posted by th4neuk

Might have to give a set of the eibachs a try. Hopefully shouldn't cause problems with the towing front.

Are they slightly stiffer as well as lower??

Yeah, they are.

I'd try looking for some spring assistors for the rear just to be safe though, espescially if you're towing a car trailer.

Superb looks well, are they BBS RM's? They look very similar...

Baker21 · 28-08-2008, 08:27

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Originally Posted by Bluefox

Perhaps we should swap for a short test drive, lol... I'd be interested to see how Baker's feels.

I will take you out for a spin at the weekend mate and you can see for yourself, you may well be surprised..........

Baker21 · 28-08-2008, 08:27

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Originally Posted by allclownsareevi

Sure I'm up for that. As for Baker's, I reckon he works for the Highways Agency, seeing which cats-eyes are fitted correctly. It's a highly developed skill but he can determine which are faulty by how they kiss his backside as he drives over them.

Nice theory mate but your a little way off the mark..........

Baker21 · 28-08-2008, 08:28

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Originally Posted by th4neuk

That Looks really good, I like it. Great colour too.

Heres a Pic of Carolyn's at the mo

Might have to give a set of the eibachs a try. Hopefully shouldn't cause problems with the towing front.

Are they slightly stiffer as well as lower??

Cheers

Looking good buddy and I would recommend a drop on Carolyn's Superb.............

Bluefox · 28-08-2008, 08:37

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Originally Posted by Baker21

I will take you out for a spin at the weekend mate and you can see for yourself, you may well be surprised..........

Should I be concerned?

Baker21 · 28-08-2008, 08:42

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Originally Posted by Bluefox

Should I be concerned?

Nah mate, I am by no means a 'boy racer' or anything, been there done that, 'low and slow'............that's my moto!!

allclownsareevi · 28-08-2008, 09:05

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Nah mate, I am by no means a 'boy racer' or anything, been there done that, 'low and slow'............that's my moto!!

Think perhaps he was thinking along the lines of "Bluefox and Baker are going for a ride, I want to go too. That Superb has loads of room in the back too ..... uh oh, wait maybe I shouldn't want to tag along after all, three's a crowd"

Don't care what anyone says, I reckon you guys make a lovely couple.

Nah I know man, yours does look really low but a lot of that is down to your alloy size. Looks really good. Said before, even the colour works well, especially with the window tint. How much did you drop yours in total?

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Might have to give a set of the eibachs a try. Hopefully shouldn't cause problems with the towing front.

Are they slightly stiffer as well as lower??

Yes mate they are stiffer, but as Bluefox said, on the towing front you may end up riding on the bump stops at time under load. He knows more than me on this subject, my only experience of suspension was a few years ago at work. We'd prepare cars for what we needed from them by removing the airbags and fuel cut-off systems then we'd send the cars down to the workshop where they'd uprate the suspension springs and shocks and fit runflats.

Baker21 · 28-08-2008, 09:23

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Originally Posted by allclownsareevi

Think perhaps he was thinking along the lines of "Bluefox and Baker are going for a ride, I want to go too. That Superb has loads of room in the back too ..... uh oh, wait maybe I shouldn't want to tag along after all, three's a crowd"

Don't care what anyone says, I reckon you guys make a lovely couple.

Nah I know man, yours does look really low but a lot of that is down to your alloy size. Looks really good. Said before, even the colour works well, especially with the window tint. How much did you drop yours in total?

Some people have some dodgy minds...........

Drop wise I am not too sure, I removed the rear adjuster blocks so that is a low as it will go and the front is wound down all the way so not sure to be honest..............all I know is that I can't go any lower unless I put smaller wheels on which will be happening soon.............

allclownsareevi · 28-08-2008, 09:26

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Some people have some dodgy minds...........

Drop wise I am not too sure, I removed the rear adjuster blocks so that is a low as it will go and the front is wound down all the way so not sure to be honest..............all I know is that I can't go any lower unless I put smaller wheels on which will be happening soon.............

Steady on, any lower and you'll need a Aussie driving license.

Baker21 · 28-08-2008, 09:29

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Originally Posted by allclownsareevi

Steady on, any lower and you'll need a Aussie driving license.

Bluefox · 28-08-2008, 12:12

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Originally Posted by allclownsareevi

Don't care what anyone says, I reckon you guys make a lovely couple.

Thank you, I'm sure we'll be very happy together.

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Originally Posted by allclownsareevi

We'd prepare cars for what we needed from them by removing the airbags and fuel cut-off systems then we'd send the cars down to the workshop where they'd uprate the suspension springs and shocks and fit runflats.

What on earth did you used to do with them?

allclownsareevi · 28-08-2008, 12:34

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Originally Posted by allclownsareevi

We'd prepare cars for what we needed from them by removing the airbags and fuel cut-off systems then we'd send the cars down to the workshop where they'd uprate the suspension springs and shocks and fit runflats.

What on earth did you used to do with them?

Worked for the MoD. My job was to make the coffee.

th4neuk · 28-08-2008, 20:35

I know they are BBS split rims. Standard fitment on an Audi A8 alledgedly.

We've wanted to lower it since getting it an especially more so since getting the alloys.

Needs four wheel alignment doing though as the rears are wearing on the inside.

What are the spring assist things?? Never heard of those? Bearing in ind it's probably only going to be towing about a dozen times a year are they easily fitted and removed. The main weight being towed is in the trailer. The race car probably only weighs about 600lbs

Cheers

27-08-2008, 09:49	#28
allclownsareevi Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lancashire Posts: 93 Members Car: Skoda Superb Classic 130bhp 2003 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Suspension lowering question? Bluefox: Cheers man. I like the way both you and Baker described the alloys as a "brave choice". Don't know if that's a diplomatic reply but I like them well enough. I've only heard good things about the Eibach's. I guessed they'd drop a little lower after they've bedded in a little but it shouldn't be by too much and the ride is pretty good so far. I'll let you know how they go after a while. Like I said before, I never wanted the car to look as unique as yours or Baker's. To be fair your motors look something special, more customised maybe? I'll inflate your ego's and even go so far to say "cooler" .... but that's not the look I wanted for this car. I just wanted it to sit better, a more squatted stance. As for the rest of it I just wanted it quietly understated. I'm 32 now mate and I don't reckon I can pull off cool anymore. Just doesn't happen once you hit 30. Since lowering it, two lads thought it was an Audi and on second thoughts it kinda does resemble one. Maybe Andy's alloys help out on that front. Baker: Yeah cheers man. The alloys look better in the flesh somehow. Have to admit some spacers to kick the wheels out a few mm would help. If I ever get around to fitting some, that'll most likely be it on the looks front. Reasonably happy with the way it looks right now. Out of curiosity what distance did you throw the wheels out on your motor? .... although I do have a friend who does custom paint jobs on car and he reckons he owes me a few favours .... custom flamed paintjob down the sides anyone? Incidentally, some idiot drove into the back of me the other day, dented the boot lid and a minor scratch on the bumper. Not best pleased but it looks like the damage is repairable. A few hundred quid should get it sorted hopefully. It's a bugger but often the way when you get a new toy.

27-08-2008, 16:16	#31
allclownsareevi Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lancashire Posts: 93 Members Car: Skoda Superb Classic 130bhp 2003 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Suspension lowering question? Baker: The alloys are 17" * 7.5J * ET45. Just thought a set of spacers might poke the wheels out a little and give it a more meaty footing. Ok it's a minor thing but something I may do one day when I'm feeling sorry for myself .... or just when I get bored browsing the net. BlueFox: Cheers for the comment man. Yeah yours and Bakers will turn heads. I mean they look somewhat different, so much so it's noticeable, in a good way I mean. With mine you'd pretty much have to actually be looking for evidence of lowering etc etc. With this motor that's kind of how I wanted it. Incidentally, how is the ride on the KW's you have? I didn't go for them because I was concerned they may make it way too hard and bumpy ... but I was sorely tempted by the 40mm drop. Happy enough with the Eibach's but still interested to see what you think of yours.

27-08-2008, 23:33	#35
th4neuk Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 437 Members Car: Lotus Esprit V8GT Thanks: 7 Thanked 27 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Suspension lowering question? That Looks really good, I like it. Great colour too. Heres a Pic of Carolyn's at the mo Might have to give a set of the eibachs a try. Hopefully shouldn't cause problems with the towing front. Are they slightly stiffer as well as lower?? Cheers __________________ Alan 04 Octavia vRS. Black Magic. Xenons. Green Cotton Filter. LCR Front Splitter 2000 Lotus Esprit V8 GT - Lots of mods and over 400BHP

28-08-2008, 20:35	#48
th4neuk Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 437 Members Car: Lotus Esprit V8GT Thanks: 7 Thanked 27 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Suspension lowering question? I know they are BBS split rims. Standard fitment on an Audi A8 alledgedly. We've wanted to lower it since getting it an especially more so since getting the alloys. Needs four wheel alignment doing though as the rears are wearing on the inside. What are the spring assist things?? Never heard of those? Bearing in ind it's probably only going to be towing about a dozen times a year are they easily fitted and removed. The main weight being towed is in the trailer. The race car probably only weighs about 600lbs Cheers __________________ Alan 04 Octavia vRS. Black Magic. Xenons. Green Cotton Filter. LCR Front Splitter 2000 Lotus Esprit V8 GT - Lots of mods and over 400BHP