VAG seat airbags

Gizmo68 · 11-08-2007, 14:55

Can anyone shed a bit of light on the colour codes for the seat airbags

Superb:
Brown earth?
Green - ??
Yellow - ??

Audi:
Black - earth?
Blue - power to activate airbag??

Also if the ignition is turned on with an airbag disconnected, will the airbag light have to be turned off with VAG-COM one the plug has been reconnected??

**VRStu** · 11-08-2007, 20:08

Yes you'll get a code. If you are messing with airbags disconnect the battery.

Looking at the CFD's I have it says -

2004 On without Airbag Deact Switch
Passenger Side Airbag Plug T3a under the seat -

Pin 3 Brown - Earth Connection
Pin 2 Blue - Airbag Control Unit Plug T75a Pin27
Pin 1 Black - Airbag Control Unit Plug T75a Pin28

Driver Side Airbag Plug T3b under the seat -

Pin 3 Brown - Earth Connection
Pin 2 Blue - Airbag Control Unit Plug T75a Pin30
Pin 1 Black - Airbag Control Unit Plug T75a Pin29

**mannyo** · 11-08-2007, 20:49

Dont mess with them and the battery connected, one wrong move and you could deploy the airbag destroying your seat in the process.

Gizmo68 · 12-08-2007, 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

Yes you'll get a code. If you are messing with airbags disconnect the battery.

Looking at the CFD's I have it says -

2004 On without Airbag Deact Switch
Passenger Side Airbag Plug T3a under the seat -

Pin 3 Brown - Earth Connection
Pin 2 Blue - Airbag Control Unit Plug T75a Pin27
Pin 1 Black - Airbag Control Unit Plug T75a Pin28

Driver Side Airbag Plug T3b under the seat -

Pin 3 Brown - Earth Connection
Pin 2 Blue - Airbag Control Unit Plug T75a Pin30
Pin 1 Black - Airbag Control Unit Plug T75a Pin29

mmmmm, interesting...........

My Superb is a March 2004, without deact switch, yet the wires are Brown, Green & Yellow!

Would the Blue & Black (or Green & Yellow in my case) need to be joined together if i was to put in an Audi seat with just two airbag wires, or would this just not be compatible?

I am fully aware of the dangers of messing about with them with the battery connected - not recommended at all, thanks anyway.

**VRStu** · 12-08-2007, 08:52

I couldn't advise you either way mate to be honest. In the diagram the Blue and Black go to opposite sides of the ignitor.

Gizmo68 · 12-08-2007, 09:56

Im wondering then if i left the earth (Brown) wire off then??

**mannyo** · 12-08-2007, 09:57

The system will need to earthed to something.

I would suggest asking this question on an audi forum, you really need to know what wire does what before you can match that to skodas wiring.

Gizmo68 · 12-08-2007, 10:03

Thanks mannyo, but im one step ahead of you there though!

I'm just not getting any replies so far

**VRStu** · 12-08-2007, 10:08

It might be that the airbags aren't compatible. What Audi seats are they?

Gizmo68 · 12-08-2007, 10:15

They are a 2002 A6

Thinking out loud - where does the earth go from the car side of the plug, is it straight to earth, or is it switched (in other words when the vehicle has been in a crash its the switched earth circuit that is completed, blowing the bag??

**VRStu** · 12-08-2007, 10:20

Are you sure the seats have Airbags and that you aren't confusing them with Seatbelt Pre Tensioners?

Come to that does your Superb have side Airbags?

Gizmo68 · 12-08-2007, 10:25

Without knowing what a seatbelt pre tensioner looks like! I can defiantly say yes to both, mine is an 2004 with cloth.
Both the Superb and A6 seats have the "airbag" badge stitched onto the seats (top edge, door side)

Oh, and they are both the yellow plugs

**VRStu** · 12-08-2007, 10:29

When you have a crash as well as the airbag igniting, a charge in the seatbelt pretensioner will ignite and pull the setbelt tight across your chest.

These are often connected under the seat as well.

Airbags etc are normally yellow plugs and have double locking.

**VRStu** · 12-08-2007, 10:34

I think if you were to post the question in the Ask a Tech forum somone may well offer to provide you with the superb CFD's for the airbag system.

Gizmo68 · 12-08-2007, 10:35

Could the earth be for the pretensioner? (but is same plug as airbag)
I pretty sure on my MK1 Octy there were only two wires on the airbag plug.

Does anyone know of some on line wiring diagrams for the VAG range?
(the airbag wiring diagram is not in the Octavia Haynes manual

**VRStu** · 12-08-2007, 10:38

You can buy diagrams from Erwin

Gizmo68 · 13-08-2007, 21:55

For others information, the airbags on the A6 seats are fully compatible with the Superb

(Brown earth wire on the Superb is left disconnected)

11-08-2007, 14:55	#1
Gizmo68 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hawkinge Kent Posts: 1,124 Thanks: 12 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts	VAG seat airbags Can anyone shed a bit of light on the colour codes for the seat airbags Superb: Brown earth? Green - ?? Yellow - ?? Audi: Black - earth? Blue - power to activate airbag?? Also if the ignition is turned on with an airbag disconnected, will the airbag light have to be turned off with VAG-COM one the plug has been reconnected??

11-08-2007, 20:08	#2
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,839 Thanks: 90 Thanked 858 Times in 773 Posts	Re: VAG seat airbags Yes you'll get a code. If you are messing with airbags disconnect the battery. Looking at the CFD's I have it says - 2004 On without Airbag Deact Switch Passenger Side Airbag Plug T3a under the seat - Pin 3 Brown - Earth Connection Pin 2 Blue - Airbag Control Unit Plug T75a Pin27 Pin 1 Black - Airbag Control Unit Plug T75a Pin28 Driver Side Airbag Plug T3b under the seat - Pin 3 Brown - Earth Connection Pin 2 Blue - Airbag Control Unit Plug T75a Pin30 Pin 1 Black - Airbag Control Unit Plug T75a Pin29 __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

11-08-2007, 20:49	#3
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 10,763 Thanks: 27 Thanked 265 Times in 248 Posts	Re: VAG seat airbags Dont mess with them and the battery connected, one wrong move and you could deploy the airbag destroying your seat in the process. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

12-08-2007, 08:52	#5
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,839 Thanks: 90 Thanked 858 Times in 773 Posts	Re: VAG seat airbags I couldn't advise you either way mate to be honest. In the diagram the Blue and Black go to opposite sides of the ignitor. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

12-08-2007, 09:56	#6
Gizmo68 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hawkinge Kent Posts: 1,124 Thanks: 12 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts	Re: VAG seat airbags Im wondering then if i left the earth (Brown) wire off then??

12-08-2007, 09:57	#7
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 10,763 Thanks: 27 Thanked 265 Times in 248 Posts	Re: VAG seat airbags The system will need to earthed to something. I would suggest asking this question on an audi forum, you really need to know what wire does what before you can match that to skodas wiring. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

12-08-2007, 10:03	#8
Gizmo68 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hawkinge Kent Posts: 1,124 Thanks: 12 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts	Re: VAG seat airbags Thanks mannyo, but im one step ahead of you there though! I'm just not getting any replies so far

12-08-2007, 10:08	#9
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,839 Thanks: 90 Thanked 858 Times in 773 Posts	Re: VAG seat airbags It might be that the airbags aren't compatible. What Audi seats are they? __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

12-08-2007, 10:15	#10
Gizmo68 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hawkinge Kent Posts: 1,124 Thanks: 12 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts	Re: VAG seat airbags They are a 2002 A6 Thinking out loud - where does the earth go from the car side of the plug, is it straight to earth, or is it switched (in other words when the vehicle has been in a crash its the switched earth circuit that is completed, blowing the bag??

12-08-2007, 10:20	#11
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,839 Thanks: 90 Thanked 858 Times in 773 Posts	Re: VAG seat airbags Are you sure the seats have Airbags and that you aren't confusing them with Seatbelt Pre Tensioners? Come to that does your Superb have side Airbags? __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

12-08-2007, 10:25	#12
Gizmo68 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hawkinge Kent Posts: 1,124 Thanks: 12 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts	Re: VAG seat airbags Without knowing what a seatbelt pre tensioner looks like! I can defiantly say yes to both, mine is an 2004 with cloth. Both the Superb and A6 seats have the "airbag" badge stitched onto the seats (top edge, door side) Oh, and they are both the yellow plugs

12-08-2007, 10:29	#13
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,839 Thanks: 90 Thanked 858 Times in 773 Posts	Re: VAG seat airbags When you have a crash as well as the airbag igniting, a charge in the seatbelt pretensioner will ignite and pull the setbelt tight across your chest. These are often connected under the seat as well. Airbags etc are normally yellow plugs and have double locking. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

12-08-2007, 10:34	#14
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,839 Thanks: 90 Thanked 858 Times in 773 Posts	Re: VAG seat airbags I think if you were to post the question in the Ask a Tech forum somone may well offer to provide you with the superb CFD's for the airbag system. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

12-08-2007, 10:35	#15
Gizmo68 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hawkinge Kent Posts: 1,124 Thanks: 12 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts	Re: VAG seat airbags Could the earth be for the pretensioner? (but is same plug as airbag) I pretty sure on my MK1 Octy there were only two wires on the airbag plug. Does anyone know of some on line wiring diagrams for the VAG range? (the airbag wiring diagram is not in the Octavia Haynes manual

12-08-2007, 10:38	#16
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,839 Thanks: 90 Thanked 858 Times in 773 Posts	Re: VAG seat airbags You can buy diagrams from Erwin __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

13-08-2007, 21:55	#17
Gizmo68 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hawkinge Kent Posts: 1,124 Thanks: 12 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts	Re: VAG seat airbags For others information, the airbags on the A6 seats are fully compatible with the Superb (Brown earth wire on the Superb is left disconnected)

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