The Ors

Hi

I considering getting myself an EeePC as there seem to be some very good deals to be had on the older stuff at the mo' but I'm a bit confused about the differences between the models. e.g 16Gb 900 & 20Gb 900.

Can anyone point me to somewhere authoritative with a tech spec comparison table between all the different types. I've had a quick look but I can't find anything that covers all models + there seem to be discrepancies between different sites.

TIA

swedishskoda

As far as I can understand from this site:
Experience Easy, Excellent and Exciting Computing With New Eee PC?!
the difference (apart from the extra 4 Gb SSD) is that the web camera on the 20Gb is specified to 1.3 megapixels so presumably lower resolution on the 16 Gb one. Different cover finish (matt/glossy).
If you should get one, lots of valuable information here:
EeeUser.com ASUS Eee PC 701, Eee PC 900 Blog Forum Wiki Community

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Kaiserb_uk

Isn't google brilliant? ASUS Eee PC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm typing this on my new Eee 901 20G Linux Black running Ubuntu-Eee and Adamm's modified kernel, it's the best £250 I've spent in ages!

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The Ors

Thanks for the replies. I was having a bit of a 'dumb' day when I posted. I did use Google but couldn't find anywhere with a chart showing all models. Just didn't think to try Wikipedia.

I started off by looking for a really cheap lappy for Vag-Com. Then I thought I'd get a 2nd hand EeePC. Then I found brand new 701's 4GB for £179 delivered, then I found brand new 900's for just £50 more etc, etc. Where do you stop? Is the 900 worth £50 more than the 701? Or is the 901 with it's longer battery life really where it's at?

The Ors

Just noticed this bit.

£250! Where did you get that from?

Kaiserb_uk

Ah, that. Perks of the job

The smaller screen of the 70x series ruled them out for me. For VagCom use you'll need XP I believe, but nothing to stop you buying the linux version and loading XP yourself (the extra storage would probably be beneficial).

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swedishskoda

If the battery capacity of the 901 exceeds the 900 it could be worth taking into account. Even if I enjoy my 900, the battery is a weak point. The fact that the battery lose charge when the pc is turned off is also annoying, see EeeUser ASUS Eee PC Forum / Power supply drains when eee 900 switched off?

Also, if you're not familiar with Linux you'll find each change of the original configuration a nuisance (or a challenge ). OK, you can put WinXP into the eee but then you lose part of its advantages (fast start-up and so on). And you will want a fairly big HD which means that there are a range of other small laptops that might compete.

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The Ors

Hi Swedish

I'm thinking of this as a replacement for my PDA, rather than a laptop. This means the battery life would be quite important to me. I'm not bothered about Windows. The only reason I'd install WinXP would be to use VAG-Com on it. One of the attractions for me is that the Eee comes with Linux 'out of the box'.

Thanks for your reply.

mannyo

I have a 701, upgraded the ram to 2gb and put XP on it. I really like it, and running XP I can get about 3hrs continuous use out of the battery. One thing to keep an eye out for is battery capacity. Some flavours of the 701 had smaller batteries on. You want one with a 5200mah battery, some came with a 4400mah one, so check the battery sticker.

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wja96

ASUS do a free upgrade for 900 users to the same battery as the 701, so the battery life can be the sanme as or better than a 70x on a 900. The 901's have significantly worse battery life as the 1.6GHz Atom CPU is very good for the amount of processing power you get, but it's much harder on the battery than the 600 or 900MHz Celerons used in the 70x series and 900 series respectively.

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Kaiserb_uk

You know nothing, the whole raison d'etre of the Atom is it's reduced power requirements/increased battery life with not much (though a little) performance increase over the Celery.

The apparent doubling of clock speed is due to the difference in architecture.

No offense.

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swedishskoda

Not outside UK they don't

Noticed however the other day that I got 2,5 hrs out of the eee although I was hooked onto the web via a 3G modem for most part of the time. That's OK. The nuisance is that it leaks battery charge while turned off.

But there are 10,400 mAh batteries on the internet, so I'll find a way to live with it...

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wja96

If you say so, but then how come the Atom Eee Pcs have worse battery life than the Celerons?

I might know nothing (although I would hope I would certainly know better than to be personally insulting to another forum user), but I know when one device is noticeably faster than another with a similar battery life on a bigger, heavier, battery.

I have two Eee PCs here, both 20Gb Linux models, one a 900, the other a 901 and the 901 is faster in benchies and has a slightly bigger battery as standard. Both do roughly 3 hours of battery life with all the options turned off, and roughly 4 hours with the options turned on and using the battery saving routines (Celeron clocks down to 600Mhz).

As part of my job I buy hardware for big companies and the Atom is faster but the battery life isn't all it's cracked up to be.

wja96

In the US, the upgrade is totally free. In the UK you have to pay postage for the battery.

There are reports that it doesn't do it if you don't have an SD card installed. Otherwise it stops if you take the battery off.

I have a 10400 battery and it's gigantic and weighs a tonne. The 7800mAh seems the best compromise to my users.

swedishskoda

Oh yes, it does (mine does, anyway).


Thanks for the warning/tip Might look for the 7800 verison then.

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aldi has a pretty handy looking notebook coming out soon

ALDI - Sunday Special Buys 7th September 2008

£279

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Asus Eee PC 901 Linux Edition | Register Hardware

I'm running Ubuntu-eee on my 901 so don't have the Asus power utilities to muck about with, but with it running on what is probably the 'High Performance' mode (uses cpu scaling when it can) the whole time I get comfortably 4.5 hours out of it.

The reason for the perhaps strongly worded retort was because you came out with such twaddle, akin to "The Fabia handles better than a CTR because of its control blade rear suspension" or "The common Rail engine is more powerful than the PD but not as efficient and worse on emissions".

Again, NO OFFENSE.

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swedishskoda

Learnt today that I probably have to accept that. I used my eee when lecturing - fully charged yesterday night, I turned it on and connected to the WLAN, kept it running for 45 mins., battery capacity down to 20%

Have ordered the gigantic battery, will start working with my dumbbells

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djswivel

Slightly off topic but rather than start a new thread:

Can any external dvd drive plug in to an eee? Just got one on an eBay auction as a crimbo present for SWMBO and she'll want to use it as a DVD player as well...

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swedishskoda

Any dvd is probably optimistic. No doubt you can find the appropriate drivers and install them, but my first month with Linux has teached me that it might involve fiddling with configuration files (it's soooo easy say the Linux geeks )

There's probably information to get on the asus website, but I couldn't find it at a quick glance. My manual lists the following external units as OK:
BENO ew1648b, ew200g, tw200d
Lite-On shm-§65p6sx
Pioneer dvr-x122
Sony drx-s70u, drx-820ul, srx-s50u
Teac dvw28sla100

but no doubt others will work, too.

There's of course always the option to install WinXP on the eee. Then it should be piece of cake.

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daiking

http://briskoda.net/tech-shed/eee-xpd/122154/ Pittvrs used an LG external drive to install XP. You could try asking Roy about it under Linux

swedishskoda

An update on the battery issue:

Ordered the 10,400 mAh lump and got it yesterday. This morning I've been doing some backup to a SDD adn afterwards fiddling with the WLAN connections so the WLAN card have been active. After 2hrs 45 mins. the battery indicator still says 50 %

OK, it is a big lump. But added weight is less than 200g, so not too bad.

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djswivel

It arrived! I couldn't help but have a fiddle with it.



CD is for size reference.

Now I've just got to learn how to use linux properly and I'm away...

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