39,476 Members 1,490,584 Posts
BRISKODA - The Skoda Forums  

Gaming machine, frag or doorstop...your thoughts?

This is a discussion on Gaming machine, frag or doorstop...your thoughts? within the The Tech Shed forums, part of the Members Area category; ok guys, swmbo 's pc is in a need of a bit of tlc. It's an amd 64 3200+ with ...


Go Back   BRISKODA - The Skoda Forums > Members Area > The Tech Shed

Pronounced "bris-skoda", a brisk skoda.

Register Gallery FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read
Old 28-07-2008, 14:49   #1
Site owner
 
ColinD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Hill & Mountains of North Wales
Posts: 10,315

Members Car: Roomster Scout
Images: 3
Thanks: 29
Thanked 174 Times in 80 Posts
Gaming machine, frag or doorstop...your thoughts?

ok guys, swmbo's pc is in a need of a bit of tlc.

It's an amd 64 3200+ with nvidia 8600GTS on an asus a8-n delux mobo.

Swmbo has just started on Age of Conan; which runs fine on a macbookpro, if a little ho, but chugs a little. I think it's a few things like ram etc as the macbook is running it of a usb2 disk and is a mobile nvidia card 8600gt. That said when it's runnig it does look alot better on her pc, till it black screens.

Question is, is the 8600gts still good enough, or should I say, is it worth getting another and sli'ing it or should I update the card and if so which bang for buck rules the roost?

If we updated the card, would the processor cope?

I'm going to upgrade the disks anyway as she's filled them (74Gb raptors and some old sata junk).

She's trying to drive a 24" dell screen too, either windowed at 1600x1200 or fs at 1920, she likes immersion.

So that's part one, part two is can anybody recommend a good gaming pc thats a small form factor, base unit only.
__________________
ColinD
1.9 Scout Roomster - Standard

www.BRISKODA.net :: Site Owner
E-Mail : webmaster at briskoda dot net
Got a comment to make about the site? Please feel free to use the feedback form here, we welcome your views.

ColinD is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote

Find out about Freedom to remove these ads.

Old 28-07-2008, 15:02   #2
Hai! King Rat
 
Fluffmeister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: North West UK
Posts: 3,543

Members Car: A black thing
Thanks: 90
Thanked 155 Times in 125 Posts
Re: Gaming machine, frag or doorstop...your thoughts?

I just sold 2 x 8800 GTX's as well.

I noticed that overclockers.co.uk have 9800GX2's down to £200 now knocking up to £159 off their price a few months ago.

At the moment (until drivers mature) and in certain area's they are outperforming the newer GTX 280's. So bang for bucks they pack quite a wallop.

Leadtek GeForce 9800 GX2 1024MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail

they may not be everyones cup of tea, but I have built a couple of systems over the last few months for people and they are good solid performers and in the right games are blisteringly quick.
Fluffmeister is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 28-07-2008, 15:05   #3
Site owner
 
ColinD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Hill & Mountains of North Wales
Posts: 10,315

Members Car: Roomster Scout
Images: 3
Thanks: 29
Thanked 174 Times in 80 Posts
Re: Gaming machine, frag or doorstop...your thoughts?

argh, another format change , pci x8 and x16...I'll find out whatthe asus mobo has, grr

Good price drop though, can't buy it from there as swmbo hates the place (short story, made longer with swmbo waiting in the car for me one day )
__________________
ColinD
1.9 Scout Roomster - Standard

www.BRISKODA.net :: Site Owner
E-Mail : webmaster at briskoda dot net
Got a comment to make about the site? Please feel free to use the feedback form here, we welcome your views.

ColinD is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 28-07-2008, 15:10   #4
Briskodian
 
cheezemonkhai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,665

Members Car:
Thanks: 123
Thanked 527 Times in 488 Posts
Re: Gaming machine, frag or doorstop...your thoughts?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ColinD View Post
ok guys, swmbo's pc is in a need of a bit of tlc.

It's an amd 64 3200+ with nvidia 8600GTS on an asus a8-n delux mobo.

Swmbo has just started on Age of Conan; which runs fine on a macbookpro, if a little ho, but chugs a little. I think it's a few things like ram etc as the macbook is running it of a usb2 disk and is a mobile nvidia card 8600gt. That said when it's runnig it does look alot better on her pc, till it black screens.

Question is, is the 8600gts still good enough, or should I say, is it worth getting another and sli'ing it or should I update the card and if so which bang for buck rules the roost?

If we updated the card, would the processor cope?

I'm going to upgrade the disks anyway as she's filled them (74Gb raptors and some old sata junk).

She's trying to drive a 24" dell screen too, either windowed at 1600x1200 or fs at 1920, she likes immersion.

So that's part one, part two is can anybody recommend a good gaming pc thats a small form factor, base unit only.
I wouldn't bother SLIing the 8600GT as an 8800GT would beat the pair and cost no more.

The 9600GT might help.

FWIW I don't personally think the raptors are as fast as people think, there is another thread on here on the subject I think or drop me a PM if you like.

I also think that the AMD chip won't be able to throw things around as quickly as you like and with 4800+ X2's going cheap as chips (£30) it would make sense to at least do that if not a complete overhaul.

Can't really think of a great base unit PC at a sane price.
__________________
Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.


Last edited by cheezemonkhai; 28-07-2008 at 16:24.
cheezemonkhai is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 28-07-2008, 15:15   #5
Briskodian
 
cheezemonkhai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,665

Members Car:
Thanks: 123
Thanked 527 Times in 488 Posts
Re: Gaming machine, frag or doorstop...your thoughts?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ColinD View Post
argh, another format change , pci x8 and x16...I'll find out whatthe asus mobo has, grr
Not sure why it's a format change as every consumer mobo with PCIe graphics slot will have a PCIex16 slot.

When you're doing SLI the second card can often run in x8 mode if there are not enough lanes, but the second slot would need to be a physical x16 connector wired to at least x8.

All PCIe from x32 down to x1 are backward compatible in that if you put a slower card in a faster slot it will work.
__________________
Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

cheezemonkhai is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 28-07-2008, 15:46   #6
Briskodian
 
faboka vrs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Merseyside
Posts: 6,059

Thanks: 14
Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts
Re: Gaming machine, frag or doorstop...your thoughts?

Doesnt the new ATI 4850/70 get good reviews now?

If your after small format then I'd get a G33/G35 chipset board. (new G45 use more power but not much improvement) I've got a G33 plus E6320 (stock speed) and ATI 1950XT and its capable of playing Crysis (medium setting) and COD4 with no problem at 1280x768.

If your not overclocking then I'd look at the E8400.
__________________
John

2004 Skoda Fabia vRS - Xenons - Heated Seats - Cruise Control - Passenger Airbag Deactivation switch - Side Airbags
faboka vrs is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 28-07-2008, 18:47   #7
Site owner
 
ColinD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Hill & Mountains of North Wales
Posts: 10,315

Members Car: Roomster Scout
Images: 3
Thanks: 29
Thanked 174 Times in 80 Posts
Re: Gaming machine, frag or doorstop...your thoughts?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cheezemonkhai View Post
Not sure why it's a format change as every consumer mobo with PCIe graphics slot will have a PCIex16 slot.

When you're doing SLI the second card can often run in x8 mode if there are not enough lanes, but the second slot would need to be a physical x16 connector wired to at least x8.

All PCIe from x32 down to x1 are backward compatible in that if you put a slower card in a faster slot it will work.
heck that's why I asked, I've not looked or touched pc gaming stuff for 18+months so I'm very rusty on it, to the point of a newbie once more.

Seems though the x16 slot things are on the a8n, both of them.

As to the raptor speeds, well it was gathering dust on the side and I'm certain it's quicker than the other disks on the side with <90's build dates.

Now to do some shopping basket filling.
__________________
ColinD
1.9 Scout Roomster - Standard

www.BRISKODA.net :: Site Owner
E-Mail : webmaster at briskoda dot net
Got a comment to make about the site? Please feel free to use the feedback form here, we welcome your views.

ColinD is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 28-07-2008, 19:55   #8
Briskodian
 
cheezemonkhai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,665

Members Car:
Thanks: 123
Thanked 527 Times in 488 Posts
Re: Gaming machine, frag or doorstop...your thoughts?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ColinD View Post
heck that's why I asked, I've not looked or touched pc gaming stuff for 18+months so I'm very rusty on it, to the point of a newbie once more.

Seems though the x16 slot things are on the a8n, both of them.

As to the raptor speeds, well it was gathering dust on the side and I'm certain it's quicker than the other disks on the side with <90's build dates.

Now to do some shopping basket filling.
Sounds like a good move if it's just sat there and free
__________________
Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

cheezemonkhai is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2008, 12:48   #9
Briskodian
 
MagicBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 286

Members Car: '05 Fabia vRS
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Gaming machine, frag or doorstop...your thoughts?

I wouldn't bother with SLI, it's very dependant on the game if it's supported and/or works properly. Best bang for the buck is a ATI 4850 at approx £120 or a 4870 if your feeling rich.
__________________
'05 Diamond Silver Fabia v/RS
MagicBoy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads

Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
PC Gaming.... Neo_VR The Tech Shed 22 14-11-2006 23:32
On line gaming spinndrift The Tech Shed 3 27-10-2005 02:57
Old Skool Gaming monkeychild The Tech Shed 6 08-04-2005 22:46
Online Gaming sixtysixofonehundred Off Topic and Chit Chat 7 06-09-2004 15:13
PC Gaming prob elegance1.8T The Tech Shed 3 28-02-2004 14:40


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 18:45.


Disclaimer: This is not an official SKODA site and is not affiliated to SKODA in any way. Visit the Official SKODA Website.
Views and opinions are given by the poster and do not reflect the views of BRISKODA.net nor SKODA.
All trademarks and copyrights remain property of their respective owners.

PLEASE NOTE - PERSONAL ABUSE, ABUSE AGAINST THIS OR ANY OTHER WEBSITE OR ANY COMPANY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
OFFENDERS WILL BE MODERATED OR EVEN BANNED
.

BRISKODA.net is operated by Summit 360 Ltd
Site Design and vBulletin Theme by Alex Pinner (apinner)

Website © 2002-2008 BRISKODA ltd & SUMMIT360 ltd E. & O.E.

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105