Laptop Temperatures

Conshine · 06-10-2008, 23:51

Hi,

What sort of temperatures are people getting with their laptops under 'normal' use, say surfing the web?

I have an Acer 7720G and it shut off earlier today when it was sat on the dining table while I was watching the next episode of family Guy with the Real Player.

I have noticed that it seems to sit at about 60 - 65 degrees constantly and it's on the balanced setting.

It's a Core 2 Duo if this makes any difference.

I have looked at the holes and there is no dust or blockages to restrict the airflow.

Just wondered if mine is running at a 'normal' temperature?

Cheers people

cheezemonkhai · 07-10-2008, 00:15

What is the surface it is sat on?

Perhaps the fan input can't pull enough air. It's worth giving it a blast with an air duster then seeing how it runs. If it is still having problems then I have a feeling you might need to look at a warrenty claim assuming it's new.

Conshine · 07-10-2008, 00:25

Just sat on a wooden table.

The laptop is only 9 months old so still in warranty.

Do you normally contact Acer or the place you purchased it as i read somewhere about a travelers warranty with Acer.

Does 60 degrees sound a bit hot?

cheezemonkhai · 07-10-2008, 00:26

Depends where that 60 degrees is.

CPU temp or case temp?

Conshine · 07-10-2008, 00:27

60 degrees are both core temperatures.

Conshine · 07-10-2008, 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheezemonkhai

What is the surface it is sat on?

Perhaps the fan input can't pull enough air. It's worth giving it a blast with an air duster then seeing how it runs. If it is still having problems then I have a feeling you might need to look at a warrenty claim assuming it's new.

What is an air duster, where can I get one (worth a try).

Do I need to take the rear cover off to blow it out or will this invalidate any warranty?

Decron · 07-10-2008, 00:49

A can of propellent which will act like compressed air. Used for clearing dust and the such like from electrical equipment. There has to be an inlet and exhaust so go with that.

Conshine · 07-10-2008, 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decron

A can of propellent which will act like compressed air. Used for clearing dust and the such like from electrical equipment. There has to be an inlet and exhaust so go with that.

Do i just blow it out through the air inlet holes or is it better to remove the cover, (bearing in mind it's still in warranty)

snownrock · 07-10-2008, 08:21

60 sounds about right to me tbh, the cooling systems on laptops are pathetic compared to desktops so they are designed to run at higher temps, if it starts running upwards of 80 then be worried.

gillywibble · 07-10-2008, 08:22

They can run up to 90 degrees.

60 is very normal.

bernie.63 · 07-10-2008, 08:28

Hi,

60 deg is perfectly acceptable temp to run at, i had an Acer with dual-core in Iraq, running at 70-80 for most of 7 months, with no adverse effects so you will be OK.

Bernie

cheezemonkhai · 07-10-2008, 09:41

Agree 60 degrees core temp on a laptop isn't the end of the world as long as the fans are running. I'd give the air duster a shot on the intake and exhaust vents and maplin or even pc world will sell them.

Something that does bother me is that your laptop shut down, i assume a thermal shutdown, so something must be getting too hot or the thermal shutdown is set low.

Are there any bios updates that suggest they fix this bug? If you give it a clean, give it a really hard DVD session afterwards and if it shuts down again call on the warranty IMHO.

Conshine · 07-10-2008, 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheezemonkhai

Agree 60 degrees core temp on a laptop isn't the end of the world as long as the fans are running. I'd give the air duster a shot on the intake and exhaust vents and maplin or even pc world will sell them.

Something that does bother me is that your laptop shut down, i assume a thermal shutdown, so something must be getting to hot or the thermal shutdown is set low.

Are there any bios updates that suggest they fix this bug? If you give it a clean, give it a really hard DVD session afterwards and if it shuts down again call on the warranty IMHO.

Only time it has shut down since new.

How do I check what BIOS is on it at the moment? there are BIOS updates on the acer website but it says:

'Flashing the wrong BIOS can cause harm to the system. Acer recommends that you should only upgrade your firmware/drivers if you have been instructed to do so by an Acer Customer Care representative.
By using these firmware/drivers you agree to accept the possibility of product failure.'

It says please choose BIOS by latest version number?

Shall I just leave it?

I'll try the DVD session later on

I have proped it up and it now seems to run at 49 degrees, so it may be clogged up with dust?

VWD · 07-10-2008, 21:49

There's a nifty program called speedfan on download.com -gives the temperatures of most items -HDD/CORE etc ,.can be set to give warning of temperature you select and gives info on fans .Even gives voltages on items too -might help to see where the overheat is .

Aspman · 08-10-2008, 09:34

60C isn't that bad.

If it bothers you you could try something like this

Amazon.co.uk: Antec Antec Notebook Cooler: Antec: Electronics & Photo

Various other ones on the same page.

jlwah · 08-10-2008, 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspman

60C isn't that bad.

If it bothers you you could try something like this

Amazon.co.uk: Antec Antec Notebook Cooler: Antec: Electronics & Photo

Various other ones on the same page.

Or a cheaper alternative:

USB Notebook Laptop Cooling pad Quiet Twin Fans -USB data cables memory cards mobile phone ipod accessories genuine cover case fascia speakers bluetoth battery dvd media external hard drive

I agree that modern laptops seem to run hotter, but I noticed with mine (Sony) that if you switch off the wi-fi / bluetooth it runs a bit cooler in normal use.

Also anything that is processor intensive will up the running temperature and I think video processing would be one of those things.

cheezemonkhai · 08-10-2008, 13:25

The lappy should run fine on a wooden desk without causing thermal shutdown.

I'd get the latest bios and have a look at the changelog in it.

As long as you're fairly competent with a PC and understand the instructions you shouldn't have any major problems, just make sure the laptop is cool and running fine first.

Obviously all at your own risk etc etc.

Conshine · 08-10-2008, 22:02

Going to get a can of air at the weekend and blow it out.

If it does it again it's going back to be looked at, may get one of those cooler/stand things, looks like they may halp and the angle will be better for my wrists.

Cheers people, I'll see what happens and report back.

cheezemonkhai · 08-10-2008, 22:34

The cooler stands will just mask a problem in the PC so I'd not do that until you've confirmed the problem has gone.

Conshine · 09-10-2008, 00:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheezemonkhai

The cooler stands will just mask a problem in the PC so I'd not do that until you've confirmed the problem has gone.

Ok, i'll leave that for a bit then

edit: when it shut off the other night it just went off straight away, no correct shutting down, is this normal for a thermal shutdown?

Made a 'kind' of a pop noise....couldn't turn it on for about 10 mins afterwards?

cheezemonkhai · 09-10-2008, 17:53

The shutting straight down is normal if it gets massively over temperature, but you would have noticed the CPU throttling and everything getting slow before it hit shutdown.

The not powering back on for a little bit I don't really understand as while it might be the case for a few minutes 10 minutes seems a bit too long.

The pop makes me worried and I'd be concerned that a capacitor might have let go if the board has any electrolytic caps on it.

Thermal shutdown shouldn't cause a pop.

Conshine · 09-10-2008, 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheezemonkhai

The shutting straight down is normal if it gets massively over temperature, but you would have noticed the CPU throttling and everything getting slow before it hit shutdown.

The not powering back on for a little bit I don't really understand as while it might be the case for a few minutes 10 minutes seems a bit too long.

The pop makes me worried and I'd be concerned that a capacitor might have let go if the board has any electrolytic caps on it.

Thermal shutdown shouldn't cause a pop.

Right, I'm on the phone to the warranty tomorrow morning...get it checked out, at least it will be logged there was a problem while in warranty!!!

Aspman · 10-10-2008, 10:37

'POP' didn't come from the speakers did it?

Might not be that bad. If it had blown a cap it probably wouldn't switch on.

It would go off very quickly for a thermal shut down. It shouldn't over heat that badly unless the vents are blocked and not just watching a DVD. You might have a fault in there somewhere after all.

cheezemonkhai · 13-10-2008, 00:23

I agree a cap should stop it switching on, but there still are a surprising number of caps that just start to leak on voltage regulation circuits in all sorts of appliances that I've seen.

Good luck with your warranty people anyway.

06-10-2008, 23:51	#1
Conshine Ho Ho Ho Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ashford, Kent Posts: 1,908 Members Car: Silver Fabia vRS Thanks: 102 Thanked 56 Times in 56 Posts	Laptop Temperatures Hi, What sort of temperatures are people getting with their laptops under 'normal' use, say surfing the web? I have an Acer 7720G and it shut off earlier today when it was sat on the dining table while I was watching the next episode of family Guy with the Real Player. I have noticed that it seems to sit at about 60 - 65 degrees constantly and it's on the balanced setting. It's a Core 2 Duo if this makes any difference. I have looked at the holes and there is no dust or blockages to restrict the airflow. Just wondered if mine is running at a 'normal' temperature? Cheers people __________________ Ben

07-10-2008, 00:15	#2
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,665 Members Car: Thanks: 123 Thanked 527 Times in 488 Posts	Re: Laptop Temperatures What is the surface it is sat on? Perhaps the fan input can't pull enough air. It's worth giving it a blast with an air duster then seeing how it runs. If it is still having problems then I have a feeling you might need to look at a warrenty claim assuming it's new. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

07-10-2008, 00:25	#3
Conshine Ho Ho Ho Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ashford, Kent Posts: 1,908 Members Car: Silver Fabia vRS Thanks: 102 Thanked 56 Times in 56 Posts	Re: Laptop Temperatures Just sat on a wooden table. The laptop is only 9 months old so still in warranty. Do you normally contact Acer or the place you purchased it as i read somewhere about a travelers warranty with Acer. Does 60 degrees sound a bit hot? __________________ Ben

07-10-2008, 00:26	#4
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,665 Members Car: Thanks: 123 Thanked 527 Times in 488 Posts	Re: Laptop Temperatures Depends where that 60 degrees is. CPU temp or case temp? __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

07-10-2008, 00:27	#5
Conshine Ho Ho Ho Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ashford, Kent Posts: 1,908 Members Car: Silver Fabia vRS Thanks: 102 Thanked 56 Times in 56 Posts	Re: Laptop Temperatures 60 degrees are both core temperatures. __________________ Ben

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07-10-2008, 08:21	#9
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07-10-2008, 08:28	#11
bernie.63 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 7 Members Car: 08 black magic TFSI Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Laptop Temperatures Hi, 60 deg is perfectly acceptable temp to run at, i had an Acer with dual-core in Iraq, running at 70-80 for most of 7 months, with no adverse effects so you will be OK. Bernie

07-10-2008, 09:41	#12
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,665 Members Car: Thanks: 123 Thanked 527 Times in 488 Posts	Re: Laptop Temperatures Agree 60 degrees core temp on a laptop isn't the end of the world as long as the fans are running. I'd give the air duster a shot on the intake and exhaust vents and maplin or even pc world will sell them. Something that does bother me is that your laptop shut down, i assume a thermal shutdown, so something must be getting too hot or the thermal shutdown is set low. Are there any bios updates that suggest they fix this bug? If you give it a clean, give it a really hard DVD session afterwards and if it shuts down again call on the warranty IMHO. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment. Last edited by cheezemonkhai; 08-10-2008 at 13:14.

07-10-2008, 21:49	#14
VWD Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 408 Members Car: Fabia 1.4TDI Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Laptop Temperatures There's a nifty program called speedfan on download.com -gives the temperatures of most items -HDD/CORE etc ,.can be set to give warning of temperature you select and gives info on fans .Even gives voltages on items too -might help to see where the overheat is .

08-10-2008, 09:34	#15
Aspman Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,060 Members Car: Octavia VRS TFSI Thanks: 10 Thanked 61 Times in 54 Posts	Re: Laptop Temperatures 60C isn't that bad. If it bothers you you could try something like this Amazon.co.uk: Antec Antec Notebook Cooler: Antec: Electronics & Photo Various other ones on the same page. __________________ The TazZone Forums

08-10-2008, 13:25	#17
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,665 Members Car: Thanks: 123 Thanked 527 Times in 488 Posts	Re: Laptop Temperatures The lappy should run fine on a wooden desk without causing thermal shutdown. I'd get the latest bios and have a look at the changelog in it. As long as you're fairly competent with a PC and understand the instructions you shouldn't have any major problems, just make sure the laptop is cool and running fine first. Obviously all at your own risk etc etc. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

08-10-2008, 22:02	#18
Conshine Ho Ho Ho Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ashford, Kent Posts: 1,908 Members Car: Silver Fabia vRS Thanks: 102 Thanked 56 Times in 56 Posts	Re: Laptop Temperatures Going to get a can of air at the weekend and blow it out. If it does it again it's going back to be looked at, may get one of those cooler/stand things, looks like they may halp and the angle will be better for my wrists. Cheers people, I'll see what happens and report back. __________________ Ben

08-10-2008, 22:34	#19
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,665 Members Car: Thanks: 123 Thanked 527 Times in 488 Posts	Re: Laptop Temperatures The cooler stands will just mask a problem in the PC so I'd not do that until you've confirmed the problem has gone. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

09-10-2008, 17:53	#21
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,665 Members Car: Thanks: 123 Thanked 527 Times in 488 Posts	Re: Laptop Temperatures The shutting straight down is normal if it gets massively over temperature, but you would have noticed the CPU throttling and everything getting slow before it hit shutdown. The not powering back on for a little bit I don't really understand as while it might be the case for a few minutes 10 minutes seems a bit too long. The pop makes me worried and I'd be concerned that a capacitor might have let go if the board has any electrolytic caps on it. Thermal shutdown shouldn't cause a pop. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

10-10-2008, 10:37	#23
Aspman Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,060 Members Car: Octavia VRS TFSI Thanks: 10 Thanked 61 Times in 54 Posts	Re: Laptop Temperatures 'POP' didn't come from the speakers did it? Might not be that bad. If it had blown a cap it probably wouldn't switch on. It would go off very quickly for a thermal shut down. It shouldn't over heat that badly unless the vents are blocked and not just watching a DVD. You might have a fault in there somewhere after all. __________________ The TazZone Forums

13-10-2008, 00:23	#24
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,665 Members Car: Thanks: 123 Thanked 527 Times in 488 Posts	Re: Laptop Temperatures I agree a cap should stop it switching on, but there still are a surprising number of caps that just start to leak on voltage regulation circuits in all sorts of appliances that I've seen. Good luck with your warranty people anyway. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

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