TDi Fuel Cooler

Lofty86 · 05-09-2008, 13:27

Im just about to do this to my furby, and found this thread, so thought id post it up...
SEATCupra.net - Your #1 source for SEAT information - The Diesel Fuel Cooler Guide
If your doing this, the pic's showing you where to split the pipe is slightly wrong, you will need to place your cooler imbertween the top fuel line on your engine and the center take-off on the filter (round thing in the right of your engine bay).
HTH some people who like power, and ill post up my pic's after im done.
Dave

Lofty86 · 05-09-2008, 13:29

Also, where it says 'You are here....Home , Info Base , Fitting Guides , '.
Click on the 'Fitting guide bit for more great links'.
Dave

devonutopia · 05-09-2008, 13:44

I have the components in a box ready to be fitted this saturday all being well.

ultra_joel88 · 05-09-2008, 14:50

what sort of power gains would you see?

devonutopia · 05-09-2008, 16:30

marginal. But having cool fuel will always be good in the long run, and for "consistent" performance - Much in the same way an FMIC works I guess.

ultra_joel88 · 05-09-2008, 16:41

what do they retail at?

Lofty86 · 05-09-2008, 20:46

I got a 19 row cooler for £25 delivered, and a load of braded hose for next to nothing.
i reckon about 1.5/2hp on a hot day, for around £45 (mine is going in the arch, where the intercooler is, but it will cool better with the FMIC fitted and SMIC out the way).
HTH, Dave

devonutopia · 06-09-2008, 01:24

Mocal tends to be a bit more. I paid a shade under £70 for the mocal 10 row cooler, 2 fittings, and delivery.

OctaviaBuzz · 06-09-2008, 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lofty86

I got a 19 row cooler for £25 delivered, and a load of braded hose for next to nothing. Dave

Where was that from, may i ask?

I have a 1.9TDi Pasat105 remapped to 145bhp (no other mods at all but would consider doing this mod at the right price for consistent summer performance)

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jamjar · 06-09-2008, 14:46

There is already one fitted underneath the car, i assume this is in addition?

devonutopia · 06-09-2008, 16:23

There is one under the car yes, but it's not that efficient.

Mine is now fitted, bolted to the underside of the slam panel and well vented via the grille. Also gives me some more "engine bay bling"

It was quite good as when leak testing you could feel it warming up a lot, even just on tickover. Hopefully it will do a good job for the future.

No pics yet. First people to see will be at TRAX tomorrow.

Lofty86 · 06-09-2008, 16:46

You may ask...
eBay Seller: trashspeedcameras: Cars, Parts Vehicles items on eBay.co.uk
The link above is the seller (on ebay), but he hasnt got any at the mo.
Just look on ebay tho.
My 19 row one is about 150mm x 250mm. so quite big.
HTH. Dave

jasc1988 · 06-09-2008, 18:36

Make up a how to guide when you do as i'll likely do this

Lofty86 · 06-09-2008, 18:54

My only thought (which will probably get answered in a mo) is, does the fuel system need priming/bleeding.
I dont think it does as the tank pump will prime the system... right?
Dave

Lofty86 · 06-09-2008, 18:56

O, and i forgot to say. Im using braided hose to A) Keep heat out, and B) so it doesnt rub through on anything.
Will be replacing all fuel lines in the engine bay probably.

VWD · 11-10-2008, 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonutopia

There is one under the car yes, but it's not that efficient.

So If I get this right -the cooler under the driver side (almost under driver seat ) is a fuel cooler - not an oil cooler ?

big_dave · 11-10-2008, 15:47

How much cooler are you making the diesel? I was told diesels optimum temperature was between 62-68 oC.

VWD · 11-10-2008, 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by VWD

So If I get this right -the cooler under the driver side (almost under driver seat ) is a fuel cooler - not an oil cooler ?

Once more back to Haynes - solly for ignorance - see that oil cooler is part of oil filter on TDI- and yes the fuel cooler is under the car .

ns_sullivan · 13-10-2008, 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonutopia

There is one under the car yes, but it's not that efficient.

If it is not that efficient in that location is it possible to just move it to the front of the car or is it just easier to buy a new one and start from there. 2 coolers are better than one sort of thing...

the one under the car is quite a side and would have thought if possible to be moved to vertically mounted it would be a large item for cooling...

cheezemonkhai · 13-10-2008, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by VWD

So If I get this right -the cooler under the driver side (almost under driver seat ) is a fuel cooler - not an oil cooler ?

The one under the car is cooling the fuel going back into the fuel tank.

This keeps the temperatures down and is partly requires as the car has a plastic fuel tank. Add to that you don't really want roasting hot fuel in the tank.

I'd say don't bother myself as nearly all the time during the year you're not going to benefit from it on a derv.

If you want to throw some money away I'd get the EGR, intercooler and associated pipework all cleaned out, a clean air filter and an oil change.

This will probably have more of an effect than a fuel cooler.

devonutopia · 13-10-2008, 17:32

I probably should put up pics of my install of the seatcupra.net fuel cooler mod.

This is it fitted to the underside of the slam panel area. It sits nicely in there, at least when you have no aircon....

This is the "bigger picture" taken on a dyno day shortly after. You can see it in there sneaking out.

skodadan · 22-10-2008, 16:55

Thought the idea of a fuel cooler was like cheezemonkhai said. cools the fuel returning to the tank so you dont get warm fuel in your tank causing condensation.? Maybee wrong.

devonutopia · 22-10-2008, 19:02

might have that side effect, but primarily cool fuel = more power. (a bit)

05-09-2008, 13:29	#2
Lofty86 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chippenham Posts: 543 Members Car: 53 Fabia vRS Thanks: 24 Thanked 22 Times in 21 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler Also, where it says 'You are here....Home , Info Base , Fitting Guides , '. Click on the 'Fitting guide bit for more great links'. Dave __________________ '53 Fabia vRS. Pro Race 2's, PD160 intake, Green Cotton Filter, Pikey Intercooler Mod x2, 312mm Brakes. Debaged Rear End. Fixed The Rear Door Leak! Ready to fit: 19Row Fuel Cooler, Braided Fuel Line. To Buy: FSD's, FMIC, LSD, Devils Own Water/Meth Injection, Clucth, SM Flywheel, Hybrid Turbo + Remap. ££££

05-09-2008, 13:44	#3
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,088 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 75 Thanked 352 Times in 295 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler I have the components in a box ready to be fitted this saturday all being well. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

05-09-2008, 14:50	#4
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 2,543 Members Car: 04 Fabia vRS (180/300) Thanks: 26 Thanked 116 Times in 110 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler what sort of power gains would you see? __________________ '04 Fabia VRS - P-Torque STG1, 312mm Brakes, Whiteline RARB, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Pipercross Panel Filter & PD160 Intake, Pioneer and Infinity ICE, Custom exhaust system w/ de-cat, CCV Bypass w/ Catch Can, Boost + Volt Gauge, Window Tints

05-09-2008, 16:30	#5
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,088 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 75 Thanked 352 Times in 295 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler marginal. But having cool fuel will always be good in the long run, and for "consistent" performance - Much in the same way an FMIC works I guess. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

05-09-2008, 16:41	#6
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 2,543 Members Car: 04 Fabia vRS (180/300) Thanks: 26 Thanked 116 Times in 110 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler what do they retail at? __________________ '04 Fabia VRS - P-Torque STG1, 312mm Brakes, Whiteline RARB, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Pipercross Panel Filter & PD160 Intake, Pioneer and Infinity ICE, Custom exhaust system w/ de-cat, CCV Bypass w/ Catch Can, Boost + Volt Gauge, Window Tints

05-09-2008, 13:27	#1
Lofty86 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chippenham Posts: 543 Members Car: 53 Fabia vRS Thanks: 24 Thanked 22 Times in 21 Posts	TDi Fuel Cooler Im just about to do this to my furby, and found this thread, so thought id post it up... SEATCupra.net - Your #1 source for SEAT information - The Diesel Fuel Cooler Guide If your doing this, the pic's showing you where to split the pipe is slightly wrong, you will need to place your cooler imbertween the top fuel line on your engine and the center take-off on the filter (round thing in the right of your engine bay). HTH some people who like power, and ill post up my pic's after im done. Dave __________________ '53 Fabia vRS. Pro Race 2's, PD160 intake, Green Cotton Filter, Pikey Intercooler Mod x2, 312mm Brakes. Debaged Rear End. Fixed The Rear Door Leak! Ready to fit: 19Row Fuel Cooler, Braided Fuel Line. To Buy: FSD's, FMIC, LSD, Devils Own Water/Meth Injection, Clucth, SM Flywheel, Hybrid Turbo + Remap. ££££

05-09-2008, 20:46	#7
Lofty86 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chippenham Posts: 543 Members Car: 53 Fabia vRS Thanks: 24 Thanked 22 Times in 21 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler I got a 19 row cooler for £25 delivered, and a load of braded hose for next to nothing. i reckon about 1.5/2hp on a hot day, for around £45 (mine is going in the arch, where the intercooler is, but it will cool better with the FMIC fitted and SMIC out the way). HTH, Dave __________________ '53 Fabia vRS. Pro Race 2's, PD160 intake, Green Cotton Filter, Pikey Intercooler Mod x2, 312mm Brakes. Debaged Rear End. Fixed The Rear Door Leak! Ready to fit: 19Row Fuel Cooler, Braided Fuel Line. To Buy: FSD's, FMIC, LSD, Devils Own Water/Meth Injection, Clucth, SM Flywheel, Hybrid Turbo + Remap. ££££

06-09-2008, 01:24	#8
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,088 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 75 Thanked 352 Times in 295 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler Mocal tends to be a bit more. I paid a shade under £70 for the mocal 10 row cooler, 2 fittings, and delivery. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

06-09-2008, 14:46	#10
jamjar Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Peterborough Posts: 105 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler There is already one fitted underneath the car, i assume this is in addition? __________________ Fabia vRS - Black Magic, Lowered 25mm, Aero Wipers, Removed side strips, Retrofit 3rd Rear Headrest, Few VAGCOM tweaks, Audi TT 17" Wheels arriving soon! Previous Cars: Mini Cooper S, SEAT Ibiza Cupra TDI, Mazda RX8, Ford Cougar V6, Mk2 Golf GTI 16V

06-09-2008, 16:23	#11
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,088 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 75 Thanked 352 Times in 295 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler There is one under the car yes, but it's not that efficient. Mine is now fitted, bolted to the underside of the slam panel and well vented via the grille. Also gives me some more "engine bay bling" It was quite good as when leak testing you could feel it warming up a lot, even just on tickover. Hopefully it will do a good job for the future. No pics yet. First people to see will be at TRAX tomorrow. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

06-09-2008, 16:46	#12
Lofty86 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chippenham Posts: 543 Members Car: 53 Fabia vRS Thanks: 24 Thanked 22 Times in 21 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler You may ask... eBay Seller: trashspeedcameras: Cars, Parts Vehicles items on eBay.co.uk The link above is the seller (on ebay), but he hasnt got any at the mo. Just look on ebay tho. My 19 row one is about 150mm x 250mm. so quite big. HTH. Dave __________________ '53 Fabia vRS. Pro Race 2's, PD160 intake, Green Cotton Filter, Pikey Intercooler Mod x2, 312mm Brakes. Debaged Rear End. Fixed The Rear Door Leak! Ready to fit: 19Row Fuel Cooler, Braided Fuel Line. To Buy: FSD's, FMIC, LSD, Devils Own Water/Meth Injection, Clucth, SM Flywheel, Hybrid Turbo + Remap. ££££

06-09-2008, 18:36	#13
jasc1988 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,967 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 101 Thanked 131 Times in 126 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler Make up a how to guide when you do as i'll likely do this __________________ Star Remap, BMC, Helix, 312's, Magnex, Vibratechniks mount, Allard Power Pipe, VMaxx Coilies, CCV mod, Pikey Short Shifter, Stainless Boost pipes, Pikey arch mod, HID's, 17's, Heated Seats, Cruise + many more

06-09-2008, 18:54	#14
Lofty86 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chippenham Posts: 543 Members Car: 53 Fabia vRS Thanks: 24 Thanked 22 Times in 21 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler My only thought (which will probably get answered in a mo) is, does the fuel system need priming/bleeding. I dont think it does as the tank pump will prime the system... right? Dave __________________ '53 Fabia vRS. Pro Race 2's, PD160 intake, Green Cotton Filter, Pikey Intercooler Mod x2, 312mm Brakes. Debaged Rear End. Fixed The Rear Door Leak! Ready to fit: 19Row Fuel Cooler, Braided Fuel Line. To Buy: FSD's, FMIC, LSD, Devils Own Water/Meth Injection, Clucth, SM Flywheel, Hybrid Turbo + Remap. ££££

06-09-2008, 18:56	#15
Lofty86 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chippenham Posts: 543 Members Car: 53 Fabia vRS Thanks: 24 Thanked 22 Times in 21 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler O, and i forgot to say. Im using braided hose to A) Keep heat out, and B) so it doesnt rub through on anything. Will be replacing all fuel lines in the engine bay probably. __________________ '53 Fabia vRS. Pro Race 2's, PD160 intake, Green Cotton Filter, Pikey Intercooler Mod x2, 312mm Brakes. Debaged Rear End. Fixed The Rear Door Leak! Ready to fit: 19Row Fuel Cooler, Braided Fuel Line. To Buy: FSD's, FMIC, LSD, Devils Own Water/Meth Injection, Clucth, SM Flywheel, Hybrid Turbo + Remap. ££££

11-10-2008, 15:47	#17
big_dave Freeeeeedom Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Glasgow Posts: 213 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 34 Thanked 21 Times in 17 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler How much cooler are you making the diesel? I was told diesels optimum temperature was between 62-68 oC. __________________ Powered by BioDiesel

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devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,088 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 75 Thanked 352 Times in 295 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler I probably should put up pics of my install of the seatcupra.net fuel cooler mod. This is it fitted to the underside of the slam panel area. It sits nicely in there, at least when you have no aircon.... This is the "bigger picture" taken on a dyno day shortly after. You can see it in there sneaking out. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

22-10-2008, 16:55	#22
skodadan Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 74 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler Thought the idea of a fuel cooler was like cheezemonkhai said. cools the fuel returning to the tank so you dont get warm fuel in your tank causing condensation.? Maybee wrong.

22-10-2008, 19:02	#23
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,088 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 75 Thanked 352 Times in 295 Posts	Re: TDi Fuel Cooler might have that side effect, but primarily cool fuel = more power. (a bit) __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

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