Skoda Fabia MK1 End of life??

[TMB]

You might have missed my comment but was wondering why you put the old head bolts back in, not that it really matters on this engine.

 

[Breezy_Pete]

6 minutes ago, MinkyMike said:

the angle meter thing

The sort of tool you only use once, because it's totally unnecessary. It's dead easy to do 90° visually, or mark with tippex etc.

[TMB]

1 minute ago, MinkyMike said:

if it don't work I honestly feel like getting rid of it :/

 

Should be fine. Have faith in the Simply Clever gods

Just now, Wino said:

The sort of tool you only use once, because it's totally unnecessary. It's dead easy to do 90° visually, or mark with tippex etc.

 

Yeah, that's what I did.

[MinkyMike]

6 minutes ago, TMB said:

You might have missed my comment but was wondering why you put the old head bolts back in, not that it really matters on this engine.

 

nah I didn't, I used new head bolts, that was an old photo I added the green circles to, I haven't taken new photos s yet I just wanted to explain what I did wrong

Edited 11 December, 2020 by MinkyMike

[MinkyMike]

6 minutes ago, Wino said:

The sort of tool you only use once, because it's totally unnecessary. It's dead easy to do 90° visually, or mark with tippex etc.

yeah i didn't know how exact it had to be, but yeah lol, guessing marking it like you say would of been just as effective !

[TMB]

Just now, MinkyMike said:

nah I didn't, I used new head bolts, that was an old photo I added the green circles to, I haven't taken new photos s yet I just wanted to explain what I did wrong

 

Yeah just realised it was an old pic because the head wasn't cleaned up. My bad.

[MinkyMike]

thanks guys you've all been really helpful really appreciate it

[sepulchrave]

40 minutes ago, TMB said:

 

Not ideal after you've compressed the gasket though.

 

Doesn't really matter if it's not being disturbed but suboptimal nonetheless.

[MinkyMike]

defiantly a rookie me

[sepulchrave]

Every wet liner engine I've ever worked on has blown a head gasket at some point, French, Italian, English, doesn't seem to make any difference.

[MinkyMike]

7 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

Every wet liner engine I've ever worked on has blown a head gasket at some point, French, Italian, English, doesn't seem to make any difference.

What does Wet Liner mean exactly? 

 

Update: does this refer to the water being in full contact around the pistons etc.. because yeah, if that's what it means i was also surprised to see/understand how a bit of cardboard(seemingly) could last under those circumstances)

Edited 11 December, 2020 by MinkyMike

[TMB]

5 minutes ago, MinkyMike said:

hat does Wet Liner mean exactly? 

 

It has removable cylinder liners as opposed to a block where the cylinders are bored into it.

[sepulchrave]

The wet liners are the ductile iron cylinders the pistons run inside, all four can be removed separately from the water jacket, they protrude slightly above the block face to ensure a good seal with the head but over time the fire rings on the gasket seem to degrade and they eventually fail allowing combustion pressure to leak into the water jacket and water to be sucked into the cylinder.

[TMB]

The liners have a copper seal at the base to seal against the coolant getting in the oil, that's why you don't want to turn the engine with the head off if the liners are not held down as it can break the seal, which is not good. Seal is number 3 here.....

 

https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/fabia/fab/2003-225/1/103-103002/

Edited 11 December, 2020 by TMB

[MinkyMike]

ah right no way understand now, that's cleared that up then thanks, hehe when I was watching those polish/Russian videos on YouTube of hg replacement they all turned the block to clean the pistons and those sleeves pushed up and they just pushed them down, I haven't moved mine!

 

I'm guessing there made out of a stronger material then the block? or is it purely for cooling purposes?

 

very helpful... feel like I'm slowly learning..

Edited 11 December, 2020 by MinkyMike

[TMB]

6 minutes ago, MinkyMike said:

hehe when I was watching those polish/Russian videos on YouTube of hg replacement they all turned the block to clean the pistons and those sleeves pushed up and they just pushed them down, I haven't moved mine!

 

They might get away with it but it's not good.

 

I saw one guy on YouTube who smeared the whole head gasket with grease

 

6 minutes ago, MinkyMike said:

I'm guessing there made out of a stronger material then the block? or is it purely for cooling purposes?

 Yeah, block is just alloy. Liners have to be stronger.

Edited 11 December, 2020 by TMB

[TMB]

Check him out smearing the gasket with grease at about 6:30....

 

 

[MinkyMike]

9 minutes ago, TMB said:

Check him out smearing the gasket with grease at about 6:30....

 

 

hehehe oh man that was painful to watch!

 

thanks for sharing that  

 

Wonder how long that lasted! lol

 

Edit: just watched him do the manifold and exhaust gaskets .. pmsl

Edited 11 December, 2020 by MinkyMike

[TMB]

Just now, MinkyMike said:

hehehe oh man that was painful to watch!

 

Wonder how long that lasted! lol

 

Not long I suspect

[MinkyMike]

Right, I'll upload new photos tomorrow, Car Porn! heheh - And the outcome of all this money and work

tbf i can see why the garages charge so much now man, it's a right pain in the ass isn't it, like the cleaning etc... and free time stolen! (if it works though its been enjoyable/job satisfaction)

 

I'll post a cost at the end if it all works out well, I feel like I've spent loads.. lol

service parts, plus adding to my tool collection.

Edited 11 December, 2020 by MinkyMike

[TMB]

Yeah, it's not easy. My back was killing me from leaning into the engine bay when I did mine. Haha.

 

I'm sure it'll be worth it for you when it's all done

[MinkyMike]

Just now, TMB said:

Yeah, it's not easy. My back was killing me from leaning into the engine bay when I did mine. Haha.

 

I'm sure it'll be worth it for you when it's all done

heheh I didn't want to sound like a puff, but yeah man, the bottom of the back was killing man, even when I did that timing chain, it's not good hunched over the engine bay, at one point I was lying on my front 

on the engine bay hehe

[MinkyMike]

every tea the mrs brought me went cold .. :( hehehe

[MinkyMike]

who'd choose to be a car mechanic ay!?!? O.O

 

Any of you guys here actually do this for a job? or are most people here DIYers?

Edited 11 December, 2020 by MinkyMike

[TMB]

Just now, MinkyMike said:

who'd choose to be a car mechanic ay!?!? O.O

 

I couldn't do it day after day for sure.