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Rear foglight, fitment on both sides?

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Hi all,

Does it have 2 rear fog lights, one with a blanking plate on other side, or just one?

Ta

1 fog light on the off-side.

Near side has all the fitments but is not connected.

1 fog light on the off-side.

Near side has all the fitments but is not connected.

European preferred situation , just the o/s lamp working as some confusion may occur if both the lights work and the o/s fails(in fog)there is a possibility of a rear end collision' - load of b**locks in my opinion!

Should add, that is for a UK reg car. I presume a Euro car is the opposite. Perhaps one of our Euro friends can confirm?

Should add, that is for a UK reg car. I presume a Euro car is the opposite. Perhaps one of our Euro friends can confirm?

'tis correct.

Just had my car serviced by local main dealer.

On making the booking I asked if both the DRL's and the nearside rear fog lamp could be activated.

Service department said yes to DRL's but no can do for the fog.

Has any one been able to get a dealer to activate the fog lamp.

DIY job I think

As I said earlier, I don't think it has a loom to it, so it needs re-wiring. A dealer will not do this as it takes the vehicle out of it's Type Approval specification in this country. You might find an auto-electrician might do it, but as the car uses the canbus system I don't know whether it would actually work.

DIY job I think

Could any other members confirm if this is correct.

Could any other members confirm if this is correct.

Assuming current cars are the same as my Sept 09 built car, the N/side bulb carrier unit is exactly the same as the O/side one, and even has the bulb in place for the rear fog. Basically all Skoda do is produce one carrier unit, and turn it upsidedown for the other side.

However, the multipin connector that plugs into the N/s (inactive) carrier hasn't got a connector to the fog pin, nor a wire in the loom, so it is a DIY job to sort it.

This has been covered before as several of us wanted the second rear fog working (for various reasons) and a lively debate ensued as some felt that it was unsafe as apart from creating unnecessary dazzle, it would no longer be obvious to following drivers that you had a rear fog on and the risk of a rear end shunt was greater.

Now, The Great Yeti and i have both been struggling to find a satisfactory solution, his most uptodate response is here I suspect that someone will have found the answer by now, but I've not seen anything posted on the forum yet.

Hope this helps

John H

Edited by speedsport

Assuming current cars are the same as my Sept 09 built car, the N/side bulb carrier unit is exactly the same as the O/side one, and even has the bulb in place for the rear fog. Basically all Skoda do is produce one carrier unit, and turn it upsidedown for the other side.

However, the multipin connector that plugs into the N/s (inactive) carrier hasn't got a connector to the fog pin, nor a wire in the loom, so it is a DIY job to sort it.

This has been covered before as several of us wanted the second rear fog working (for various reasons) and a lively debate ensued as some felt that it was unsafe as apart from creating unnecessary dazzle, it would no longer be obvious to following drivers that you had a rear fog on and the risk of a rear end shunt was greater.

Now, The Great Yeti and i have both been struggling to find a satisfactory solution, his most uptodate response is here I suspect that someone will have found the answer by now, but I've not seen anything posted on the forum yet.

Hope this helps

John H

I did it using a 3/16 female spade connector, pushed into the fly plug aligned to locate on the spade within the light cluster, this was then fed by the trailer relay fog outlet, but a loop across the rear to the other fog feed would probably work

Hope this soln helps

How did you get from the back of the light unit to inside the car to run your feed?

Assuming current cars are the same as my Sept 09 built car, the N/side bulb carrier unit is exactly the same as the O/side one, and even has the bulb in place for the rear fog. Basically all Skoda do is produce one carrier unit, and turn it upsidedown for the other side.

However, the multipin connector that plugs into the N/s (inactive) carrier hasn't got a connector to the fog pin, nor a wire in the loom, so it is a DIY job to sort it.

This has been covered before as several of us wanted the second rear fog working (for various reasons) and a lively debate ensued as some felt that it was unsafe as apart from creating unnecessary dazzle, it would no longer be obvious to following drivers that you had a rear fog on and the risk of a rear end shunt was greater.

Now, The Great Yeti and i have both been struggling to find a satisfactory solution, his most uptodate response is here I suspect that someone will have found the answer by now, but I've not seen anything posted on the forum yet.

Hope this helps

John H

Hi John emoticon-0148-yes.gif

I can confirm that I have indeed activated the second (N/S) fog light - I did it a little time ago but we have been so busy moving home "Back North" from sunny Norfolk that I have not had time to put together a guide. I promise that I will do so ASAP but as we only moved 6 days ago it may take me a week or two to post it in the Technical Guides Section.

Briefly: A small transistor circuit driving a very small relay fed via a fuse from a permanent supply in the rear of the vehicle and taking a 1 milliamp signal from the o/s fog lamp. This prevents any interference to the can-bus. A VERY simple circuit and I have an idea that may make it even simpler - All easily achieved by anyone with a soldering iron.

Sorry for not being in touch sooner but will get the details on-line and to you via email as soon as I can! I also have the details of a warning LED for the heated door mirrors, and will publish that one as well - I have promised this to a couple of other people and I will do it as soon as time and swMbo allows....................Tony emoticon-0144-nod.gif

How did you get from the back of the light unit to inside the car to run your feed?

By removing the central moulded panel across the rear of the boot area then springing the 2 side panels - this was done to wire a 7 pin trailer socket(details of panel removal can I think be found in a rtecent posting re towbar/electrics fitment) The loom can then be accessed to take off a feed, and also mount rthe new spade connector, the relevant lamp unit also needs demounting.

hope this clears any fog!!

By removing the central moulded panel across the rear of the boot area then springing the 2 side panels - this was done to wire a 7 pin trailer socket(details of panel removal can I think be found in a rtecent posting re towbar/electrics fitment) The loom can then be accessed to take off a feed, and also mount rthe new spade connector, the relevant lamp unit also needs demounting.

hope this clears any fog!!

If it helps!

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Tony - Hi, and thanks. I guessed your move was imminent, so hadn't bothered you! Looking forward to the info in due course.

Frenchtone - Thanks - actually I'd got that far, but wasn't happy about springing the side panels out, but....

Lowen - that's exactly what I needed, though in removing the side panels I still need the confidence to believe that nothing will break whilst springing the fixing clips out! Many thanks.

Tony - Hi, and thanks. I guessed your move was imminent, so hadn't bothered you! Looking forward to the info in due course.

Frenchtone - Thanks - actually I'd got that far, but wasn't happy about springing the side panels out, but....

Lowen - that's exactly what I needed, though in removing the side panels I still need the confidence to believe that nothing will break whilst springing the fixing clips out! Many thanks.

I had no problem when removing the rear and N/S panels whilst fitting tow bar electrics.

Good luck.

Roger

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Well the supplying dealers are fitting continental lights and foglight on the correct side for driving in Germany ( as thats where I am based )

Hoping that they do fit the light inside the unit, and not have a 10 quid "halfords special" screwed into my rear bumper!!

I let you know after its picked up, which should be 1st August :rofl:

Edited by john96

Are you sure this isn't as simple as recoding?

My 2008 Octavia Scout was delivered with one rear foglight, I had my local Skoda dealer hook the car up to their diagnostic machine and 'activate' the second rear foglight.

Simply coding the car to suit the requirements of its final destination on the production line is much cheaper and easier for manufacturers rather than fitting different light clusters or having different assembly line processes...

Are you sure this isn't as simple as recoding?

My 2008 Octavia Scout was delivered with one rear foglight, I had my local Skoda dealer hook the car up to their diagnostic machine and 'activate' the second rear foglight.

Simply coding the car to suit the requirements of its final destination on the production line is much cheaper and easier for manufacturers rather than fitting different light clusters or having different assembly line processes...

Unless it works with a virtual connection it ain't going to work as on my 110 SE there was no physical cable connected - Skoda saving money in construction?

Unless it works with a virtual connection it ain't going to work as on my 110 SE there was no physical cable connected - Skoda saving money in construction?

On my Scout there is a single plug type connector that attaches to the back of a bulb holder. The power is then fed to the individual bulbs by a mass of metal strips. I wouldn't expect to see a specific wire fed directly to the fog light?

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The test will be if there is a bulb fitted. Unlike other Skoda models the Yeti fog light bulb is single purpose, on my Octavia it doubles up as a night light. If Skoda have fitted a bulb on the near side then this would suggest that the rear light clusters / bulb holders are the same for all markets and the car itself is coded to enable the correct side.

I appreciate of course that the Yeti could be a very different set-up.

I do know that the procedure to activate the second rear fog on the face lifted Octavia is a lot more complicated / difficult. Perhaps Skoda do not want us to activate twin rear fogs on any of their newer models?

Just a word of warning for anyone thinking of wiring up the second rear foglight using a joining wire. Some have attempted this on the Octavia forum with strange results...

When the dealer tried but failed to sort mine with VAGCOM, I tried this, and although it brought both fogs lights into operation, it caused other problems with the parking lights.

If the left parking light was on (obviously with ignition off), the left parking lights, and part of the right were lit, and if the right parking light was on, only part of the right side were on.

Remove the bridging wire, and the parking lights went back to normal. Also, errors were brought up for rear lights on VAGCOM.

Moral of the story -- don't bridge the two sides with a joining wire -- it causes more problems than it solves.

On my Scout there is a single plug type connector that attaches to the back of a bulb holder. The power is then fed to the individual bulbs by a mass of metal strips. I wouldn't expect to see a specific wire fed directly to the fog light?

DSC04865.jpg

The test will be if there is a bulb fitted. Unlike other Skoda models the Yeti fog light bulb is single purpose, on my Octavia it doubles up as a night light. If Skoda have fitted a bulb on the near side then this would suggest that the rear light clusters / bulb holders are the same for all markets and the car itself is coded to enable the correct side.

I appreciate of course that the Yeti could be a very different set-up.

I do know that the procedure to activate the second rear fog on the face lifted Octavia is a lot more complicated / difficult. Perhaps Skoda do not want us to activate twin rear fogs on any of their newer models?

I mean that there is no wire to the plug on the loom side , the light cluster may well have strips to the bulb holder etc but if thr loom does not have the wire it won't work - my Yeta 110 SE does not have that wire, and I suspect all other variants do not either!!

To save going over old ground, have a look at posts #10, #11 on page 1.

There is no wire in the loom, nor a "spade" connector in the multipin plug that connects to the N/s lamp unit, so no amount of re-programing will help!

Edited by speedsport

Sorry , but why bother?

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