http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3052043/That-s-one-way-make-point-Unhappy-motorist-plasters-35-000-Audi-A5-slogans-parks-outside-dealership-drinks-litre-oil-time-fills-up.html

 

 

Wow!

 

I don't see what is issue is though,

 

They have offered to fix it for free? So why not just get it fixed and move on.

Because they have not been fixing or resolving until people do really get publicity.

This will bring to the fore just how the Volkswagen Group have been dealing with fundamental Design & Manufacturing failures 

and failures in Warranty , Aftersales & Customer Service issues.

 

Treating UK Customers differently from those in Other World Regions.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/343626-radio-4-feature-audi-tfsi-engines

Edited 23 April, 201511 yr by goneoffSKi

Keep it till it breaks, then far far away from VW and the likes...

If they've offered to fix it was free how can he claim 9000 in costs to fix it?

having been an audi owner (and forum member) I know this guy would have had to jump through a lot of hoops to get Audi to fix this, including a number of oil consumption tests and paying for these up front. There is a lot of these engines using a lot of oil.

 

My A4 suffered with corrosion in the roof gutters, there is no way this was anyone's fault apart from Audi and was covered under a warranty, they only offered to pay 60%, and my 40% contribution would cost more than it would to sort myself.

 

Unfortunately VAG customer service has become very poor!

Good on him but a lot of cars use oil now adays, and classed as the norm. Strange the 1.8 i owned used nothing at all between 3000 mile services unlike the 2.0 Tfsi.

 

My next car wont be a Vw group car for similar reason , overated.

Euro 5 Emission engines.

 

Vorsprung Durch Technik

Play at 3 Monkeys & treat the Buyers / Customers like Mushrooms.

'Do nothing until the publicity and then the legal actions start to hit the investors dividends'.

A litre of oil every 250 miles, look on th3 bright side, at least he doesnt need ro worry about doing oil changes.

just around 48 litres used in a 12,000 mile year @ even £6 a litre is £288, but at Audi Dealer Prices you can double that.

Then they want to put another £48 worth in at a £250 Service.

 

It is bad enough were they try to say 'You may use as much 0.5 Litres 1000/km depending on style of driving and the conditions you operate the vehicle under'.

& they say that in Owners Manuals for 3 or 4 cylinder engines petrol or diesels,

but not in the Brochures or the Co2 /km Emissions-VED chart on the Dealership Wall.

 

& all you want to do is drive to work and the shops in the UK, 

& not 'Cross High Mountain Passes in Summer towing a caravan'.  But you need to buy 1 litre of Full Synthetic 5w /30 oil every 2 or 3 

tank fill ups. or even more so.

 

Not very Green and Euro 5 Emission like if you need to add oil as if the Unleaded (Super) running engine is a 2 Stroke.

Bad enough needing Adblue to get their diesel engines to get them to meet the Legislation.

 

Not very Green and Euro 5 Emission like if you need to add oil as if the Unleaded (Super) running engine is a 2 Stroke.

Bad enough needing Adblue to get their diesel engines to get them to meet the Legislation.

 

 

Much like real world MPG it's not something considered in the EU lab tests therefore not applicable for adverts.

Edited 23 April, 201511 yr by Aspman

We might see it that way, but many potential buyers do not.

http://skoda.co.uk/models/fabiahatch2015/pages/default.aspx

 

Maybe not so many read this.

http://skoda.co.uk/pages/fuel-consumption-statement.aspx

And Fabia vRS owners thought they had it bad!

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3052043/That-s-one-way-make-point-Unhappy-motorist-plasters-35-000-Audi-A5-slogans-parks-outside-dealership-drinks-litre-oil-time-fills-up.html

 

 

There is a thread on covering the subject already, just a bit further down the page.

Opps, I did have a quick check too!

 

My title is better 

It seems to me that problems that effect the CAVE engine are not unique and are more widespread.

So far I've seen horror stories about vrtually all the performance variants of the tsi engines, 1.4, 1.8 and 2.0

How anybody or VAG themselves can accept/state that ridiculous oil consumption of 1 litre or more per 1000 miles is normal is beyond me.

Edited 23 April, 201511 yr by xman

Brilliant publicity stunt :clap:

 

Incidentally, why was this moved to a different sub-forum?

Edited 23 April, 201511 yr by vxh26

Threads merged in case you wondered why it's slightly disjointed!

for any cave drivers i can sort out a really good deal on the big 205 litre drums of engine oil.

If they've offered to fix it was free how can he claim 9000 in costs to fix it?

Cost of oil for top-ups; value of wasted time for repeated visits to dealership for diagnosis; cost of time for written & verbal correspondence; cost of sign writing on the vehicle; legal costs; hire car costs; cost of extra fuel because there's no way the engine will be achieving decent economy with all that oil in the mixture.

 

VW play a very co-ordinated game when it comes to warranty repairs.  They fob you off with "no fault found" followed by "they all do that" or "normal for this type" or even "it's not a Rolls Royce".  They also love "I've never seen that before" when a browse of any decent forum will reveal the same fault in droves.  

 

They then like to string you along with various incremental levels of diagnosis followed by a minor fix, more diagnosis & minor fixes interspersed with the need to send data back to HQ in Germany "for analysis" .  Their hope is that your desire for owning a decent car that is fit for purpose will wain & you'll stop complaining.

 

I know they aren't the only marque that does this but they are masters of the art.

Hopefully after Brisky Hitler's Mk2 Fabia vRS oil consumption issues, he didn't trade it in for an A5 or he will be pretty peev'd!  

The Volkswagen Group Manufacturers really do not cover themselves in glory.

 

I do hope the CEO's and Senior Management are now having to answer to the Shareholders & Partner Companies,

because their reputation does seem to be getting where it should be, down the pan.

 

http://thecarexpert.co.uk/most-reliable-engines

Certainly the reliability survey someone posted the other day looked a bit worrying for VAG with the French and Korean manufacturers above them and Bentley at the bottom.

 

Clicky click

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32332210

im glad I went with the TDI A5 when I had one lol

It all looks vaguely familiar.... http://ateupwithmotor.com/model-histories/nsu-ro80-history/  and that did not end well.