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Hello Guys,

 

I have Yeti 2012(April) with 100k KM, and for some reason after 10-15mins of driving in D drive i do see on the dashboard where the KM is seeing, an icon of screwdriver switching between D1, D2, D3 etc to the screwdriver icon,

Attached are the pics,

Any reason for this?

 

Please advise.

 

Thanks,

 

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Sounds like a sensor indicates a fault once it is up to full working temp.

Not clear if gearbox related or a general fault?

@LioriK

Is this a DQ200 7 speed DSG.

 

Did it get neither '347F' carried out, Mineral Oil instead of the Synthetic, and software update, DSG 2009-2012, 

or 

'34H5'  2013-2015, Software Update.

 

There is a time late 2012 that owners were told neither Campaign Required.   With these the Flashing White Spanner shows the fault.

Some need a pump, some thee Mechatronic Unit, & some both and Clutch Pack.

 

This is becoming quite common on these late 2012 built DQ200 DSG's.

  • Author

I have 7 speed DSG but i'm not sure this is the model of the gearbox.

How can i check if there was software update? is this something i can check by my own?

 

Also, should i be worry from this icon? because i did understand (from the person i bought the car from) this was for few year already,

I take it you have a 1.2 TSI so the DSG is a DQ200.

 

 

In the spare tyre well there should be a sticker showing what if any Service Campaigns have been done.

'34F7'  or '34H5'.

There are some that never needed or got either, there are 2012 DSG's that Skoda / VW said did not need these,  this is the White Spanner flashing ones when faulty in my experience.

 

Ask a Skoda Dealer or Skoda Customer Services to check your cars VIN / Registration.

 

As it is you now need a Automatic Specialist that knows DQ200 DSG's.   Or a Main Dealership to check out your car.

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  • Author

Thanks a lot!

Unfortunately, I couldn’t find anything where the spare tyre is located.

I will check in the skoda dealer this info.

Does it means the gearbox is not working well?

  • john999boy changed the title to Gear shows screwdriver icon

Is it not just a service reminder, what does the service info say on the Maxidot?

 

Dealership employees have wrongly told owners it is a service reminder usually just before failure of their DSG.

@Sittingbull might tell his tale that ended up costing him £3,200.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/444617-7sp-dq200-dsg-failure

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/266606-dsg-gear-selector-symbol-flashing-spanner-any-views

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/464804-dsg-display-showing-flashing-spanner-superb-mk-2

 

 

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12 hours ago, LioriK said:

i do see on the dashboard where the KM is seeing, an icon of screwdriver switching between D1, D2, D3 etc to the screwdriver icon

I don't see any screwdriver icon.

The spanner is there though.

 

If there is overheating you get the 'Gear Cog' icon.

 

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2 hours ago, LioriK said:

Thanks a lot!

Unfortunately, I couldn’t find anything where the spare tyre is located.

I will check in the skoda dealer this info.

Does it means the gearbox is not working well?

 

Unfortunately the flashing white spanner is alerting you to a DSG problem, a proper diagnostic including physical inspection will confirm this. With ours it was to notify us the internal pump within the mechatronic unit was leaking fluid and losing pressure, eventually leading to a car that was immovable as it couldn't select gears due to complete lack of pressure to operate clutches.

 

55 minutes ago, Urrell said:

Is it not just a service reminder, what does the service info say on the Maxidot?

 

 

Absolutely not I'm afraid, 2 main dealers told us prior to ours completely failing. Service interval reminders are different symbol from this and in slightly different area of dash, usually with sound. Skoda UK know what the flashing white spanner is but neglected to inform all of their dealerships as to the facts, resulting in people like me being given duff information and a monster bill.

 

20 minutes ago, Roottootemoot said:

Dealership employees have wrongly told owners it is a service reminder usually just before failure of their DSG.

@Sittingbull might tell his tale that ended up costing him £3,200.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/444617-7sp-dq200-dsg-failure

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/266606-dsg-gear-selector-symbol-flashing-spanner-any-views

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/464804-dsg-display-showing-flashing-spanner-superb-mk-2

 

 

 

I won't tell tale again as it takes too long and still gets my dander up.

 

Bottom line is the advice I was given by 2 main dealerships was erroneous and contributed towards the worsening of our problem, leading to an eventual failure of mechatronic unit and then clutch packs also being required, with a bill of £3200 to swallow into the bargain.

 

The important thing for the OP to do here is to test, not guess. Book a diagnostic including physical inspection with a main dealer, preferably one that knows and understands the DQ200 box. My hope for you is that it turns out to be selector forks or clutch packs as those are cheaper options.

 

Part prices last year, in UK, were £1149 plus vat for mechatronic unit, £585 plus vat for clutch packs.

 

I wish you well.

  • Author

Can i buy OBDeleven so i can check the issue with this by my own?

  • Author

Attached is the service menu -

 

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Even the Skoda / VW Diagnostic system might not show what the issue is.

7 hours ago, Roottootemoot said:

Even the Skoda / VW Diagnostic system might not show what the issue is. 

No diagnostic system will show what the issue is. VAG diagnostic system will show EXACTLY the error code and a short description of it.

Interpreting the error code and finding the real issue is another thing. It all depends on how experienced and well trained the mechanic is.

That is true for ANY error code.

  • Author

Thanks, then i really don't know what to do, because the Skoda dealer here said there is no issue...just ignore it...

It seems they are not professional at all.

@RicardoM

I can assure you that 'plugging in and using the diagnosis' with the licensed equipment in the case of 'Flashing spanner' on a DQ200 DSG can show no error code.

 

As to 'Mechanics' you are not going to find many of them in a Skoda Main Dealership in the UK.  You might get a Technician or 3 and a fitter maybe.

All the gear and often no idea other than, 'that needs a new MCU or Clutch Packs, or a new box.'

 

 

The issues are not unknown, there are enough with 2012 Mk2 Fabia vRS that have had the Flashing White Spanner and been served a load of guff by Skoda Technicians with all the gear.

@Sittingbull is only one of many.  Funny how Skoda are not aware of the issue, or choose not to be with DQ200's from the period just as they were discontinuing CAVE engines in the Fabia vRS.   But it is happening in other models with the DQ200's before the '34F5' Service campaign was required.

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I'm based in Israel therefore it will be very hard to find someone with the proper knowledge 😞

That is the problem,

but not just in Israel, it can be in the UK when it comes to Franchised VW Group main dealerships.

On 14/08/2019 at 09:38, LioriK said:

I'm based in Israel

We'd have known that straight off, if you'd put it in the "location" field in your profile. Even at the level, you're telling us all sorts of potentially relevant stuff about your local laws, which models are official imports type things.

8 hours ago, LioriK said:

I'm based in Israel therefore it will be very hard to find someone with the proper knowledge 😞

Please elaborate.

I've updated the OP's location as it's not something new people easily spot.

  • Author

What i meant in the previous post is - The official Skoda dealer/garage near to my working place the technician guys are not professional as they should be for such diagnostic question. That's why it will be very hard to find someone here who knows about the issue, if there is any.

6 minutes ago, LioriK said:

What i meant in the previous post is - The official Skoda dealer/garage near to my working place the technician guys are not professional as they should be for such diagnostic question. That's why it will be very hard to find someone here who knows about the issue, if there is any.

 

That is an unfortunate situation. However your car has a fault with the DSG gearbox. You do not have the tooling, training or support to deal with it. 

 

Any approved Skoda service centre ‘should’ be able to repair this fault with full support from Skoda Auto. 

@LioriK - That's unfortunate indeed. My best suggestion now, presuming your dealerships have similar organisation to UK ones, is to phone them and ask to speak to the "Dealer Principal" or, if he's not available, a certified "master technician".

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