The Mild Hybrids do have the e-DQ200 or DQ200-E.   

 

Anyone buying a new car should expect the DQ200 DSG's to be all fixed and reliable after all VW Group have tried, tried and tried again since 2012 and the world wide recall excluding Europe.

 

Then the WLTP reared it's ugly head and then they used DQ200's with 1.5 TSI's and messed about to get low C02 under testing.

 

The DQ200 will be in the Fabia Mk4 so they really need to have got their act together.  Plenty of practice at the customers expense in thousands or hundred of thousand of cases.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/496398-dsg-shudder-low-rpm

 

 

Little point asking Sales People about DQ200 DSG's as there have never ever been an issue, just overblown on the internet and forums.

 

Edited 17 August, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

It’s strange many say that the mild hybrids have the DQ200E but this press release claims it is a normal DQ200, of course press releases can be wrong.

 

https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/en/the-new-golf-international-vehicle-presentation-5609/new-drive-systems-5622

 

1.5 eTSI with 110 kW and DSG. The 1.5 eTSI with 150 PS can also be combined with a 7-speed DSG (DQ200) as standard. It has the same output figures (110 kW between 5,000 and 6,000 rpm) as a TSI with the same power but without 48 V technology and DSG. The also identical maximum torque of 250 Nm is available within a range from 1,500 to 3,500 rpm. The Golf 1.5 eTSI accelerates from 0 to 100 km/h in 8.5 seconds and has a top speed of 224 km/h.

@match14  They certainly seem to not be using the letter 'E' or 'e' as they were going to, but then the e-Tech does not move off the same as with the ICE.

Maybe due to Renault getting their e-Techs Hybrids out. 

 

With the VW Group / Skoda It is as when they were in the GTE. 

Any issues that the DQ200 have in the 1.5TSI should be gone when a Mild Hybrid..

 

Renault.

 

 

VW.

 

 

 

In North America & Australia VW Jetta & Skoda Karoq got the 1.4TSI with 8 speed TQ Auto's.  so no idea what these Jetta are that got e-DQ200's.

Maybe they never did, but VW Group did speak of DQ200-e's. 

*Maybe someone had too many e.s.

 

My error,

It was the DQ400e in the from 2016 GTE's & the Audi, Plug in Hybrids

 

Edited 17 August, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

I can't see why they can't just use a plain vanilla DQ200 with a mild hybrid engine. All the mild hybridness is contained in the engine in the guise of the belt driven oversized alternator / weedy electric motor.  Add a bit of a lithium battery (0.7kwh iirc) and some electric power management and all you have is yet another ice engine. Just stick a standard DQ200 on, maybe tweak the dsg software regarding coasting etc.

 

Hybrids like the GTE or iv are completely different architecture 

As long as they have after 12 years or more managed to build the DQ200's for use in every applications as good as is possible then all should be well.

The Software seems to be the recurring issue over the time DQ200's have been produced other than when there were suspect clutches procured.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/492757-dsg-long-term-reliability

It takes time before you find out how a manufacturer gets on with Long Term Reliability, like over 3 years needs to pass before you know how they are when out of Manufacturers Warranty.

VW seem not to be prepared to put a 10 year warranty on the DQ200 which has not scheduled servicing.

 

 

Back in 2013.   VW group have had plenty time then to have the e-Tech's as good as they can 8 years later.

 

 

 

Edited 18 August, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

Hello everyone,

 

Been reading this post for the last few days as trying to get some info on issues I'm having with my Skoda rapid 1.6tdi DSG. 

 

It suffers from the same slip that seems others are mentioning, especially during kickdown. 

 

What's different on my rapid, is that the car is a nightmare when first started. It suffers from a very rough idle and this results in very jerky movements in 1st and reverse gears. When it jerks, if I don't hit the brake, the car will stall. Has anyone else had this symptom? It's a nightmare when parallel parking, so much so that I can't wait to get rid of the car. 

 

Here's a short clip of the revs when idling and pulling away slowly in 1st. 

 

Rough idle

 

 

I took it to a few specialists and the first couldn't find any obvious fault, and nothing on diagnostics. The second garage found a Skoda TPI for similar symptoms that recommended replacing the clutch. 

 

Having been quoted 1400 to replace the clutch and reading here that the slip symptoms remain, I'm hesitant about spending the money until I know 100% that it's the problem. 

 

The car has a few service recall stickers but I don't think any are for the gearbox. It's had 20v4 48L7 and 23R6. 

 

I'm thinking it could be something fuel or air related as the symptoms are worse in park, and would think the clutch is disengaged. 

 

Anyone else having similar issues? 

Bump. 

I think it is worth splitting out the problem.

 

1) Address to rough idle issue first. A problem with fuel or not been serviced recently with dirty oil or block air filter would be a good first step. 

 

2) It is worth implementing the Audi accelerator fix to see if that smooths out the power issues

 

3) In terms of the DSG gearbox, try and recalibrate it. There is no real servicing to be done on a DQ200 6 or 7 speed version so it will be difficult to improve the gearbox.

Above sounds very good advice.

 

I'm just curious, how do you recalibrate the DSG box, scan tool, disconnect car battery, driving, other?

 

Just a small point.

There are no 6 speed DQ200's. 

 

 The DQ200 are 7 Speed Twin Dry Clutch DSG's.  2009-2021.

Is the DQ200 still in production?

Not untill the 10th January as the Skoda factory is closed.  They will then be back  producing over 2,000 a day for use across the VW group.  They are fitted to Skoda Scalla, Kamiq, karoq, Octavia and Superb if 1.0 or 1 5 TSI FWD.  

Hello,

 

Few months ago I noticed sudden rpm rise (not much, around 100rpm), during gear change from 4 to 5. After several months of my DSG behaviur observation I have come to the following conclusions:

• This behaviour is quite rare,
• It happens only during gear change from 4 to 5 in D mode,
• Engine and gearbox have to be warmed up well, for example after driving on highway,
• There are no weird noises, shudder, vibrations etc.

I found one video on youtube presenting similar behaviour but in VW Golf with DSG7:

 

Anyone had similar issue? Is it clutch slip? Or mechatronics problem?

It looks like this behaviour may occur if a bit of throttle is applied during an up change?

 

Doesn't really look like slip and may just be to smooth out the gear change.

Hi, I have VW Touran TSI 1.4 DSG7 - DQ200 and I´m having the same noise that these videos:

 

1st one (second 12 and 24):

 

 

 

2nd one: 

 

 

 

The noise appears only after 30-35 minutes and only when changing from 1 to 2 gear and 2 to 3 gear.
I found posts of people that after changing the DSG, and the clutch... the problem reappears, but in the second video it says that is solved by changing the heat shield... then I found this post related to the heat shield: https://www.upownersclub.co.uk/threads/up-heat-shield-exhaust-rattle-noise-repair.6442/

 

Someone have this problem and found a solution?

My car have 78.000km

 

 

Thanks

@singh946Just bumping incase you are interested in a long read.

It will still be an issue on some DQ200's from 2014 on. 

My DQ200 has been sh1te since I got the car 4 years ago. It's been readapted a couple of times, it's had the latest Skoda software update a couple of months ago, a new clutch, flywheel, transmission and mechatronic oil change ( the mech oil was sludgy brown so get it changed regularly like all the other DSGs require). It's worse now than it ever was, slips in all gear changes up to 5th rather than original even-odd changes.

 

Final step will be a TVS DSG driveability tune @ £450! I'll confirm in advance whether, based on the symptoms and diagnostic, that the tune is likely to work and if not whether I'll get a refund.

I'm already £2500 down on this so this will be last throw of the dice. 

Edited 7 June, 20241 yr by Gammyleg
Changed last sentence

A waste of money and effort if it is the installation of the clutch packs that was messed up. IMO.

The original clutch pack was cr4p and the replacement is no better, therefore I'd like to think it's not the clutches that are at fault.

Hi folks.

I posted earlier in the Karoq fourm but one of the replies (thanks @Ootohere) referenced this thread so I thought I should post here.

 

Recently bought a second hand 2018 Karoq 1.6TDI with the famed DQ200 DSG. The car has 85,000km on the clock.

It seems to be suffering from clutch slip, see attached video.

The video is filmed with the car left in 5th gear with about half throttle applied at approx 90-100km/h to produce a high load on the engine/gearbox to induce any possible clutch slip.

 

I've read through this entire thread and I'm still a bit unsure what the overall recommendation is for this issue, but it seems as though the gearbox does require a replacement clutch pack to fix the issue, even if it's just temporary.

 

Has anyone else with the 1.6TDI/DSG experienced similar issues and was their 'fix' the replacement clutch pack?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Edited 23 September, 20241 yr by TanHammer

Bump.

Sorry, meant to update this thread. The dealer apparently replaced both clutch plates about a month ago under warranty and the car has been perfect since.

They seemed to be well aware of the issue after I described it to the service manager, didn't need to take it for a test drive or even demo it to a tech.

I'm not sure how the car was sold with a pretty obvious issue.

I said I'm concerned this issue could rear its head again in future and they said the clutch parts are warrantied for a year - we'll see how it holds up.

I'll update the thread if it starts to act up again.