VW 508 00 Oil

[juan27]

I see in the manual section of the MySkoda App that my VRS245 needs VW 508 00 spec oil for variable servicing.   This doesn't seem to be widely available even in Halfords/ Euro Car Spares etc, so will probably  need to be mail order.  Anyone else using this type oil and which brand do you suggest? 

Edited 14 April, 2018 by juan27
Clarify its for variable

[Ootohere]

Available at Skoda / VW Dealerships,.  have a seat when asking their price.

[juan27]

Yeah its £17/litre up mail order for Mobil. Funnily enough OEM VW is one of the cheapest options on Amazon 

Edited 13 April, 2018 by juan27

[BATVANVRS]

 

Send an email (open link for email address) Mike @ Briskoda parts will look after you  Spot on service.

[mumphie]

Interesting.... The dealer I bought mine from said it needed 507 00...

[Ootohere]

They were correct.

& you could do Fixed Servicing and be using oil to the spec VW502 00,  or VW504 00 with a 2.0TSI 220, 230 or 245ps

[mumphie]

Phew! Thought I'd been given bum info. What's the deal with 508 00 then? Is that the recommended for variable?

Edited 13 April, 2018 by mumphie

[Ootohere]

The deal is real world testing and VW, Audi, Skoda & SEAT going to have to have the vehicles achieving and being able to repeat the Fuel Consumption's & Emissions from testing.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/447931-is-karoq-co2-already-wltp 

So at the Factory they will need to start putting in VW508 / 509.   0w 20 FS Long Life used if that is what it takes and petrol engines with GPF's coming, 

& they need this before September.

Edited 13 April, 2018 by Offski

[juan27]

245 is 180KW TSI

[juan27]

11 hours ago, mumphie said:

Phew! Thought I'd been given bum info. What's the deal with 508 00 then? Is that the recommended for variable?

Yes for variable

[juan27]

11 hours ago, mumphie said:

Interesting.... The dealer I bought mine from said it needed 507 00...

507 is for diesels according to the book.

[KjetilRos]

1 hour ago, juan27 said:

507 is for diesels according to the book.

 

504/507 is the same oil in 5w/30. 

 

https://www.oilspecifications.org/volkswagen.php

 

 

 

Good image to explain the different numbers. It can be quite confusing. 

 

Edited 14 April, 2018 by KjetilRos

[mumphie]

 That looks like an old infographic...?

[Ootohere]

?

So when will Skoda be changing the Variable / Major Service prices and even the Minor / Fixed servicing costs?, 

then the 'National Pricing at Participating dealerships, cars 3-10 year old.   'Simply Fixed' / Simply ripped right off!'

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/446365-oil-specs 

 

http://skoda.co.uk/finance-and-offers/service-and-maintenance/simply-fixed 

http://volkswagen.co.uk/owners/servicing/regimes 

[KjetilRos]

8 hours ago, mumphie said:

 That looks like an old infographic...?

Yes. But will explain a bit why the numbers are like they are. Click the link for updated info

[Ootohere]

Further to that in the link, VW508 now recommended for the 1.5 TSI it would appear.

VW engines in a Skoda / Seat / VW / Audi.

Edited 14 April, 2018 by Offski

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Offski said:

Further to that in the link, VW508 now recommended for the 1.5 TSI it would appear.

VW engines in a Skoda / Seat / VW / Audi.

 

VW 508.00/509.00

This specification combo (508.00 for petrol, 509.00 for diesel) requires a 0W20 viscosity, fuel economy oil with long life additives. These specifications are NOT backward compatible with the eariler VW specifications. Recommended for the new 2.0 TFSI 140 kW and 3.0 TDI CR 160 kW VW/Audi engines.

 

Where does it say VW508 now recommended for 1.5Tsi ?

 

 

 

 

 

[Ootohere]

Maybe in an Owners Manual for a Karoq 1.5TSI.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/446365-oil-specs 

[shyVRS245]

On ‎13‎/‎04‎/‎2018 at 15:03, juan27 said:

I see in the manual section of the MySkoda App that my VRS245 needs VW 508 00 spec oil for variable servicing.   This doesn't seem to be widely available even in Halfords/ Euro Car Spares etc, so will probably  need to be mail order.  Anyone else using this type oil and which brand do you suggest? 

Castrol Edge supplied by local dealer to top up until first service due around 17,500 miles. Not cheap at £12 per litre.

[Ootohere]

^^^ That will be 1 litre then of 5w 30 FS Long Life VW504 00,  just as some dealers give a bottle of in the boot, some do not but will charge £12.

 

If the car left the factory with 0w 20 FS LL you might want to top up with that and not 5w30 FS LL

 

A member posted last week they asked about VW508 00 in a Main Dealers and were told £138 for 5 litres, then were offered 10% discount.

[shyVRS245]

8 minutes ago, Offski said:

^^^ That will be 1 litre then of 5w 30 FS Long Life VW504 00,  just as some dealers give a bottle of in the boot, some do not but will charge £12.

 

If the car left the factory with 0w 20 FS LL you might want to top up with that and not 5w30 FS LL

 

A member posted last week they asked about VW508 00 in a Main Dealers and were told £138 for 5 litres, then were offered 10% discount.

You are right just checked and it's VW504 00 LongLife III 5W-30.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Offski said:

Maybe in an Owners Manual for a Karoq 1.5TSI.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/446365-oil-specs 

 

My apologies, don't have a Karoq manual to read. Just had a look at the Golf manual - you can use VW508 or VW504.

 

So when the 508 specs say it's not backward compatible - well they seem to be for a 1.5tsi  

 

Typical VW *******s that will confuse punters and mechanics alike.   Just like that schematic diagram above apparently designed to simplify things.  Just look at the flowchart for the petrol engine. Wouldn't it be much simpler to have said "VW504 to be used for all gasoline engines"   Why are they even bothering about 503, 502 or 501 - just use VW504 and you can't go wrong. 

[Ootohere]

Depends when the Linked info  the 2.0 & 3.0 is from,  Dates being important....

because for the 1.5TSI and 1.0TSI & the other petrols VW need the Real World test results.   Hence VW 508 00 at the Factory,.  & then VW509 00 for diesels.

 

That flow chart shows Fixed and Variable Servicing, 

and as of the Euro 6 TSI engines from 2015/16 untill last September and still now VW502 00 is fine for Fixed servicing.

Any owner of a Keeper might actually think best avoid long life oil, as VW Recommend, they can end up with a short lived TSI.

 

Long life more about VW's Fleet / Lease / profits, 3 Year Warranties, never mind those buying used and not well serviced,  or someone keeping cars for 5,6,7 years and longer..

Edited 14 April, 2018 by Offski

[shyVRS245]

24 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

You are right just checked and it's VW504 00 LongLife III 5W-30.

Also noticed best before date on bottle is October 2018 so probably put the other half litre in around 12,000 miles based on current oil consumption.