Hi

i know this has been posted multiple times but i need some help

i mapped my car on monday. Unsure what programme, doesnt have different modes, guy just spent 1hr 30 mins playing with his laptop and the plug-in compartment on the driver side. £200 job done. I dont feel much difference. Went for a dyno today, (stupidly didnt do one before the “remap”) and got peak 195.1bhp. Used dragy performance meter before the remap and timed 0-60 after 10 runs, at 6.24 seconds. Did about 7-8 runs after remap best i got was 6.14.

i was expecting it to do 0-60 in around 5.2 seconds after the map. Got a piperline air filter. No change to the plugs. Guys at the dyno recommended me to change the spark plugs as they sensed a slight misfire. 

 

Any comments on the remap scenario?

Main question, i will be getting the SKJ20 Denso plugs from ebay but i want to upgrade the coil packs in one go too.

 

which coil packs go well with denso plugs and where can i get em?

 

does the R8 coil pack, 2.0 tfsi engine ones fit the fabia vrs?

 

thanks

You arent going to hit 60 in 5.2 in a stage 1 twincharger on a road, you might just about do that a drag strip. Expect more like high 5s on road with good tyres, low 6s with average tyres.

4 minutes ago, FlexibleMouse said:

You arent going to hit 60 in 5.2 in a stage 1 twincharger on a road, you might just about do that a drag strip. Expect more like high 5s on road with good tyres, low 6s with average tyres.

Now you’re motivating me to do 100 more runs till i get it

 

any help with the coilpacks/plugs question

I dont know where you got the idea of a 5.2 second 0-62 time... You will need slicks and weight reduction to hit that. If you check out the quarter mile slips posted you will see very few that low even on a prepared dragstrip. Post a full quarter mile ET and terminal speed and you will see where you rank. A stock car has a trap speed of about 95mph and a stage 1 car about 98-99mph. 

 

Coil packs, leave them alone until you have 4 new plugs in and the misfire is still present.

Never mind the sprint

the coil packs i shall leave alone

spark plugs i definitely want to change, i looked at other threads and Denso SKJ20CR-A8 seem to be the ones that are recommended with 6mm gap, on the CAVE engine though.

i have the CTHE engine, does that make a difference?

So you managed to get no more more BHP than you already had.

 

Be careful buying the DENSO plugs on Ebay unless a trusted seller, best go to a motor factors and collect and have a better change of not getting hooky ones.

 

I would leave the Denso SKJ20CR-A8 with the gap they come with, just check all 4 are the same, i would adjust and go to 0.6mm

 

Don't run with misfires. Don't boot hard if there are misfires.

http://onlyrevo.com/support/sales/14tsi-twincharger-engine-issues

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/209657-14tsi-14-mile-leaderboard

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/355413-santa-pod-raceway-times-mod-etc

 

 

 

 

Edited 6 April, 20197 yr by Skoffski

17 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

So you managed to get no more more BHP than you already had.

 

Be careful buying the DENSO plugs on Ebay unless a trusted seller, best go to a motor factors and collect and have a better change of not getting hooky ones.

 

I would leave the Denso SKJ20CR-A8 with the gap they come with, just check all 4 are the same, i would adjust and go to 0.6mm

 

Don't run with misfires. Don't boot hard if there are misfires.

http://onlyrevo.com/support/sales/14tsi-twincharger-engine-issues

 

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/355413-santa-pod-raceway-times-mod-etc

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/14tsi-14-mile-leaderboard

 

 

 

Cant say i got no more BHP as i already had because i dont know what BHP it was running before the map as i didnt dyno it. 

 

Paid £200 for the map, will be quiet gutted if the denso plugs wont sort out the power. People at Surrey Dyno told me thats potentially witholding the full potential of power.

did 195.1 BHP today

will post a picture of the graph later on

AFR was really good too

really down as I didnt do the dyno before the map

 

PS: unsure of any physical motor shop i could go to to physically buy the denso’s please suggest any

 

also I was told the remap on the ECU would work really good with the torque converter in the DSG thus a map on the box of £250, thoughts?

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What torque converter in the DSG?  There is no Torque Converter.

You have a Twin Dry Clutch DSG.

Yes a map of a DQ200 DSG can work well, but not because of the torque converter.   Seeing how the remap went, it would not be them i would have it done by.

 

So a standard CTHE can get 195 bhp, which was why in the other thread i said best get a Dyno before to see what you were dealing with.

 

Any Motor Factor with a Public Counter can surely get you the plugs you want in 24 hours.

You are in London after all.

 

Or use a Forum Sponsor that can supply by mail order.

DENSO plugs £9.65 each.

http://opieoils.co.uk

(there might be a discount code.)

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/357839-fabia-vrs-estate-rolling-road-run

 

Edited 6 April, 20197 yr by Skoffski

2 hours ago, Skoffski said:

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What torque converter in the DSG?  There is no Torque Converter.

You have a Twin Dry Clutch DSG.

Yes a map of a DQ200 DSG can work well, but not because of the torque converter.   Seeing how the remap went, it would not be them i would have it done by.

 

So a standard CTHE can get 195 bhp, which was why in the other thread i said best get a Dyno before to see what you were dealing with.

 

Any Motor Factor with a Public Counter can surely get you the plugs you want in 24 hours.

You are in London after all.

 

Or use a Forum Sponsor that can supply by mail order.

DENSO plugs £9.65 each.

http://opieoils.co.uk

(there might be a discount code.)

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/357839-fabia-vrs-estate-rolling-road-run

 

Incredibly disappointed for not having done a dyno prior to the remap. 

But a standard stage 1 remap should give me what sort of BHP and 0-60 sprint time?

 

based on your evidence of CTHE’s being known for running 195 BHP as stock, i’m thinking this guy has done absolutely nothing to my car but charged me £200?

 

I’ve just driven home and can comfortably say for sure the car has misfire issues in higher RPM. Very slightly but much more noticeable after the dyno run. Whats even more strange, at times the car does feel like its been altered in terms of throttle response. To briefly explain how, when i’m hovering on 3000/4000rpm at 30mph in 2nd gear/3rd gear whichever it is when i full throttle it the jump between 30-50 is so aggresive, the needle literally almost just jumps skipping right past 35-40-45 to 50 

 

i really dont know what to make of this

ive searched everywhere for the spark plugs cant find them they must be ordered online 

https://www.gsparkplug.com/1x-denso-spark-plugs-skj20cr-a8-skj20cra8-267700-1760-skj20cra8.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImqHbmpm84QIVxaoYCh2EBAd-EAMYASAAEgJZx_D_BwE

 that the right one i suppose?

 

 

PS is it me or is that dyno graph fluctuating badly

2 hours ago, Skoffski said:

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What torque converter in the DSG?  There is no Torque Converter.

You have a Twin Dry Clutch DSG.

Yes a map of a DQ200 DSG can work well, but not because of the torque converter.   Seeing how the remap went, it would not be them i would have it done by.

 

So a standard CTHE can get 195 bhp, which was why in the other thread i said best get a Dyno before to see what you were dealing with.

 

Any Motor Factor with a Public Counter can surely get you the plugs you want in 24 hours.

You are in London after all.

 

Or use a Forum Sponsor that can supply by mail order.

DENSO plugs £9.65 each.

http://opieoils.co.uk

(there might be a discount code.)

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/357839-fabia-vrs-estate-rolling-road-run

 

 

Attempted to pm you but cant?

Reza,

 

Was the misfire there before the remap?. If it was me I would be contacting the guy who came around to your house and tell him the symptoms and say you are not happy with the map, want it taken off and would like a full refund.

I have learnt from experience over the years and unfortunately trying to save a few quid is not always the best way to go. The past two cars I have had remapped I paid between £400 - £500 from a reputable tuning company/garage and that included numerous dyno sessions before the map,during the custom map with a rolling road printout at the end. Yes I know that is double what you have spent but you know you are getting a tried and tested quality product. Combine that with how problematic theses 1.4 twin charged engines/components can be I would be definitely be more inclined to do it this way.

I would change the spark plugs as mentioned above but a good map should improve driveability not make it worse. Also a remap on a turbo charged car should mean there is a noticeable improvement/a big smile on your face when you drive it for the first time after the map :-)

I have been in your position and if it is a money thing then save up for bit longer/work more overtime or if you are just trying to save a few quid then don't.

 

Also you have to be realistic you are driving a two wheel drive stage 1 fabia vRS not a Golf R, S3, RS3...etc 

 

Hopefully that don't come across as being negative it is just meant as some friendly advice.

 

Cheers,

 

Chunk

Edited 7 April, 20197 yr by Chunk11

Hi Reza,

 

As offski suggests many CTHE come more than the suggested 180ps straight out the box, the 180ps figure is a minimum figure and it is known for some CTHE to be closer to 195 out the can, certainly many around 190 from owners posts on here and at mk2 vrs owners group page on facebook.

 

Remapping one of these wee engines always comes with a risk as they are already fairly stretched delivering 180ps from a 1,4tsi with an engine oil capacity of 3.6l. It is always best, prior to remapping, to make sure you don't have one with misfire issues or the oil consumption problem.

 

If you are satisfied you have a good one, then prior to remapping it is advised to have good plugs in, personally we run with the Denso plugs as suggested above. We never leave them in for a long time either, annual change or 10,000 miles if it comes quicker.

 

In terms of remapping, although they're more expensive, APR are long considered the safest of the maps for our engines whether CAVE or CTHE, that is based on ownership experiences.

 

Now for the bad news for you. With a Stage One remap at APR or REVO, or anywhere else really, you would definitely notice the difference. Power should go to around 215/ 217 bhp rather than 195, and that is on an otherwise standard car. With intercooler changes, induction kit and so on, and a stage 2 map, you're somewhere around the 230 to 235 mark. So, if your mapping guy has managed to only achieve 195 from a stage one, I can understand your frustration.

 

As for the 0-60 timings, the ones offski and others have pinpointed close to the 5.5s mark are at least stage 1 on 215 or thereabouts, on a drag strip with good tyres and a good launch.

 

Re the advice on the DSG, again be very careful. This can be done, and it can make the shifts very aggressive, but at what price. A quick look through the forum will detail how many owners, including me, have had to replace a mechatronic unit and clutch packs. When ours went last year it cost us over 3 grand to put right, and we hadn't had it mapped or owt like that,

 

R8 coil packs do fit the mk2 vrs.

 

I suppose my general advice would be to make sure the basics of the wee car are safe to go through a tuning process, if you can get the misfire sorted out by changing the spark plugs and you know you don't have an oil consumption issue, then wire in. Unfortunately with these wee cars there is a higher risk of problems than with others, as you will have gleaned from posts on here.

 

That said, several owners with sound platforms have been able to map successfully and tune successfully to stage 2 with no problems. Others have had engines professionally rebuilt/ forged and then successfully tuned them, including one on here who has just fitted a new turbo set up from RTMG and is now looking at dyno figures around the 360bhp mark, albeit clutches etc have also been heavily upgraded.

 

 

3 hours ago, Sittingbull said:

Hi Reza,

 

As offski suggests many CTHE come more than the suggested 180ps straight out the box, the 180ps figure is a minimum figure and it is known for some CTHE to be closer to 195 out the can, certainly many around 190 from owners posts on here and at mk2 vrs owners group page on facebook.

 

Remapping one of these wee engines always comes with a risk as they are already fairly stretched delivering 180ps from a 1,4tsi with an engine oil capacity of 3.6l. It is always best, prior to remapping, to make sure you don't have one with misfire issues or the oil consumption problem.

 

If you are satisfied you have a good one, then prior to remapping it is advised to have good plugs in, personally we run with the Denso plugs as suggested above. We never leave them in for a long time either, annual change or 10,000 miles if it comes quicker.

 

In terms of remapping, although they're more expensive, APR are long considered the safest of the maps for our engines whether CAVE or CTHE, that is based on ownership experiences.

 

Now for the bad news for you. With a Stage One remap at APR or REVO, or anywhere else really, you would definitely notice the difference. Power should go to around 215/ 217 bhp rather than 195, and that is on an otherwise standard car. With intercooler changes, induction kit and so on, and a stage 2 map, you're somewhere around the 230 to 235 mark. So, if your mapping guy has managed to only achieve 195 from a stage one, I can understand your frustration.

 

As for the 0-60 timings, the ones offski and others have pinpointed close to the 5.5s mark are at least stage 1 on 215 or thereabouts, on a drag strip with good tyres and a good launch.

 

Re the advice on the DSG, again be very careful. This can be done, and it can make the shifts very aggressive, but at what price. A quick look through the forum will detail how many owners, including me, have had to replace a mechatronic unit and clutch packs. When ours went last year it cost us over 3 grand to put right, and we hadn't had it mapped or owt like that,

 

R8 coil packs do fit the mk2 vrs.

 

I suppose my general advice would be to make sure the basics of the wee car are safe to go through a tuning process, if you can get the misfire sorted out by changing the spark plugs and you know you don't have an oil consumption issue, then wire in. Unfortunately with these wee cars there is a higher risk of problems than with others, as you will have gleaned from posts on here.

 

That said, several owners with sound platforms have been able to map successfully and tune successfully to stage 2 with no problems. Others have had engines professionally rebuilt/ forged and then successfully tuned them, including one on here who has just fitted a new turbo set up from RTMG and is now looking at dyno figures around the 360bhp mark, albeit clutches etc have also been heavily upgraded.

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Chunk11 said:

Reza,

 

Was the misfire there before the remap?. If it was me I would be contacting the guy who came around to your house and tell him the symptoms and say you are not happy with the map, want it taken off and would like a full refund.

I have learnt from experience over the years and unfortunately trying to save a few quid is not always the best way to go. The past two cars I have had remapped I paid between £400 - £500 from a reputable tuning company/garage and that included numerous dyno sessions before the map,during the custom map with a rolling road printout at the end. Yes I know that is double what you have spent but you know you are getting a tried and tested quality product. Combine that with how problematic theses 1.4 twin charged engines/components can be I would be definitely be more inclined to do it this way.

I would change the spark plugs as mentioned above but a good map should improve driveability not make it worse. Also a remap on a turbo charged car should mean there is a noticeable improvement/a big smile on your face when you drive it for the first time after the map :-)

I have been in your position and if it is a money thing then save up for bit longer/work more overtime or if you are just trying to save a few quid then don't.

 

Also you have to be realistic you are driving a two wheel drive stage 1 fabia vRS not a Golf R, S3, RS3...etc 

 

Hopefully that don't come across as being negative it is just meant as some friendly advice.

 

Cheers,

 

Chunk

Thanks the pair of you for your extensively detailed explanaitions i really appreciate it

 

to answer your question chunkc the misfire was not there before the map/i didnt notice it. The car did some heavy jerking once every month or two when changing gear other than that nothing. After the map there was no misfire either. It was surprisingly after the dyno last night i noticed it. 

 

I bought the VRS back in October. Waited 7 months to make sure the car is sound, not consuming oil, it behaves fine, had a health check done by Skoda, had the tyres changed, pipercross filter in there, no misfires, no issues at all that would hinder my thoughts of mapping.

with that said, the guy who did the map (please check on google) is Unique Tuning based in hayes. 25 5star reviews on google, very knowledgeable and approachable guy, but im really unsure he would remove the map and fully refund me after all i have spent 1 hr 30 mins at his garage. 

 

Is there no where, no way i can ask someone to plug the ECU in to read the data and tell me if its actually been mapped or not?

 

also, could the spark plugs misfiring slightly be the cause behind the full potential not being released (according to the guys at the dyno; yes)

 

i have ordered some densos, i have also ordered a GFB DV+ diverter valve i just want some more BHP and better 0-60 timings im not asking for too much wildelt replacing clutches and hybrid turbos etc. Not worth it IMO. After the map i stuck two brand new 215/40/17 Uniroyals at the front, handling is improved for sure as well as grip. But completely gutted, even he quoted me 210-220 BHP so my plan is to change the plugs, if it doesnt sort it out then back to him i suppose.

APR remap does sound juicy but hefty in pricing, not too damaging but if i wanted it done would have to wait another month to come back from my holiday before touching the car 

 

some pictures of the dyno yesterday

If a Skoda Main Dealership employee did a Health Check and plugged in and did diagnostics and there was no fault codes then that was al they will have done.

Look see's.

If you do not know when plugs were checked or changed then they are not checking or replacing unless you pay them to.

(The plugs will likely be the new NGK from the New Engine being fitted, but they need checking.) Crap plugs anyway.

 

I would never have a Remap before the Spark Plugs have been checked or replaced and anyone doing one especially on a 1.4 TSI / TFSI 132-136kw Twincharger 

without knowing the state of the plugs and gaps is a person i would never go to.

Too risky.

No Dyno run pre mapping with good plugs, filter, fuel etc and the exhaust mods is just silly IMO, nothing to compare and a false economy.

Edited 7 April, 20197 yr by Skoffski

3 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

If a Skoda Main Dealership employee did a Health Check and plugged in and did diagnostics and there was no fault codes then that was al they will have done.

Look see's.

If you do not know when plugs were checked or changed then they are not checking or replacing unless you pay them to.

 

I would never have a Remap before the Spark Plugs have been checked or replaced and anyone doing one especially on a 1.4 TSI / TFSI 132-136kw Twincharger 

without knowing the state of the plugs and gaps is a person i would never go to.

Too risky.

No Dyno run pre mapping with good plugs, filter, fuel etc and the exhaust mods is just silly IMO, nothing to compare and a false economy.

Sorry buddy not everyone has the same amount of knowledge

i wasnt prepared to go buy a VRS and stick it straight on a dyno to let them red line the car 3-4 times as ive just bought it prior to the mods.

the piper cross filter was already there when i bought the car i just gave it a thorough clean

plugs are on the way and will stick them on later this week

exhaust i did because its just so much better, why would you want to drive a performance car but sound like you’re driving a prius?

opinions vary so thats why i did the exhaust first. Since October until now nothing has gone in the tank except shell’s v-power fuel is always good in the cars system. 

No dyno run prior to mapping as i mentioned above was completely reckless of me and i regret it so much so it’s giving me nightmares 

so I know where i made my mistakes, I just need some guidance for my next steps and how to tackle it

 

Do you reckon replacing the spark plugs could potentially give me the power that is being potentially witheld by the misfires? 

You chucked money at it and now need to chuck more.

As Dandanfings and others have, wasted cash when there was enough people around telling them what was what or what to be aware of.

 

DENSO Plugs or Bosch or any will not give much more power if any  than the NGK / OEM, or 7's or 8's with the Standard Map or Remap but they 

are important in you know what is fitted.

You just always need to know what is in and how behaving before trying to upgrade or improve performance.

 

Sorry but you have been listening to experts and supposed experts, and asking here and mostly ignoring people that have been there done it and gained knowledge.

It has all been getting done for 9 years now, and so many having the experience you have.

Reputed tuners with all the gear and sometimes not a clue about Twinchargers.

 

Basics, check spark plugs, fit not OEM / NGK,  99 ron minimum fuel,  no misfires then dyno it with someone that knows about DQ200 DSG because they are not the same as Wet Clutch DSG on a Dyno. 

Edited 7 April, 20197 yr by Skoffski

6 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

Sorry but you have been listening to experts and supposed experts, and asking here and mostly ignoring people that have been there done it and gained knowledge.

It has all been getting done for 9 years now, and so many having the experience you have.

Reputed tuners with all the gear and sometimes not a clue about Twinchargers.

 

Basics, check spark plugs, fit not OEM / NGK,  99 ron minimum fuel,  no misfires then dyno it with someone that knows about DQ200 DSG because they are not the same as Wet Clutch DSG on a Dyno. 

Im not thinking of tuning the DSG anymore. At least, not until the remap cra* has been sorted. As chuck said i should try get a refund but its going to be tricky 

Need to sort that out before thinking of doing anything else at all

 

just need to know if the darn spark plugs change could unleash the power that might be held back?

ive ordered the DENSO SKJ20CR-A8

Funny thing is your car does not sound like a Prius, or a standard MK2 vRS,

but after a few hundred quid goes exactly the same as a standard CTHE can.  All the noise and no more go than a CTHE with £200 Tuning box

or £399 Stage 1 remap..

 

£40 spent on consumables to try and eliminate a misfire is just doing the basics.

The Denso Plugs will unleash no more power than good conditions / correct gap OEM plugs.

They will not self destruct as other do,or should not, 

but then one member here followed my advice or others advice and one DENSO plug did burn the tip off.

 

I went to DENSO on advice of a close friend who was a AUDI Master Tech who had worked on Twincharger faults, 

and went to the Ignition Coils and Plugs that VW / Audi were starting to try.

The Audi A1 1.4TFSI 185ps was and is nothing special, and Mk2 Fabia vRS could produce the same output.

I ran them on stage 1 and stage 2 without issues.  They do not change the power output though. 

 

Upgrade the Ignition Coils, the Plugs etc and get a decent Remap and you are sorted. More oomph.

 

You can get a nice Bling Alloy part to fit with the Upgrade R8 Ignition Coils.

 

 

Edited 7 April, 20197 yr by Skoffski

If you want to know where you stand, do a quarter mile run and post the results. This will give you the best idea of the power to weight ratio, how well it launched etc. It will also allow you to compare with all the other cars to see where your car is right now. Then armed with that knowledge you can make an informed choice of what to upgrade to realise your goals for the car.

Edited 7 April, 20197 yr by FlexibleMouse
Typo

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/392456-spark-plug-question

This thread should be of help on R8 coils, and a car sounding better than standard and going much better than standard. with 213ps.

 

Edited 7 April, 20197 yr by Skoffski

 

8 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/392456-spark-plug-question

This thread should be of help on R8 coils, and a car sounding better than standard and going much better than standard. with 213ps.

 

Im not going to touch the car further until i can get this issue with the remap sorted. I spent an hour and a half with the guy watching him plug the cars battery on a Snap-on battery charger, played with the settings on that trolley/device. Then got his laptop plugged something in the OBD plug and fiddle with his computer. Saw him turn the cars ignition to ‘on’ but not the engine on a few times. Then he went away, came back after 20-30 mins did some more laptop stuff and next thing you know my car was “mapped”. He took the keys i jumped in the passenger side and he said he had to red line it to ensure all is ok with no funny lights. On the way back i drove it and it did i’ve got to be honest feel a tad different. Though it was a rainy damp day so traction was a huge issue so i couldnt entirely judge the power. But thats what happend on the map day. 

I would take it back to him but the guy is away for a week. Until then i’ll have to sit and suffer in silence!

 

 

So alongside the GPB DV+ diverter valve upgrade and brand new plugs you reckon i wont see any performance enhancement? 

 

To your last point about 213ps, is that solely with R8 coils and good plugs? Or plus a remap?

 

 

The members video that was in that thread said 213ps. Stage 1 i believe at that time.

205 PS-210 ps plus was common with Stage 1 Remaps.

 

The Spark plugs need inspected, gap checked, 15 minute jobs. 

Or not and mess about spending hours talking about mis-fires, misfires that might not even log fault codes, but can have a car go into fault mode, disable the turbo and even shut down 2 cylinders.

 

?

Was TC off when they had it on the DYNO?

 

 

 

 

220ps. So that will be Stage 2 plus.

 

 

 

Edited 7 April, 20197 yr by Skoffski

Traction control was off yes and it was in manual mode

So it had 6 gears. I take it it was not going to be going to 7th anyway.

I dyno them in 'D'.

I really wonder what he actually has changed from the Engine Management on the ECU from the replacement engine being fitted.

4 hours ago, Skoffski said:

So it had 6 gears. I take it it was not going to be going to 7th anyway.

I dyno them in 'D'.

I really wonder what he actually has changed from the Engine Management on the ECU from the replacement engine being fitted.

IMO you get optimum performance in ‘S’ or Manual mode as stationary the car sits on around 1100 rpm where is in D mode its around 800. 

Update:

spoke to the remap guy, going next week monday to check the dygnostic it any flags come up.

he told me theres 2 ways you can map a car, by increasing the power output in percentage or by coding. He done ‘coding’. 

As for upgrading the DSG he didnt say torque converter he said theres a torque limiter in the DAG that limits how much torque the car puts out. Map that and torque number increase. He also said if i wanted he can increase the map/BHP/power as though alter the map to make the car perform more aggresively however he said if theres any damage to other components i.e turbo etc he wont take responsibility. So i declined but he will check everything is fine

he also said the reason potentially why im not feeling more power is:

1: something could be wrong with the mass sensor? No clue what that is

2: i need to upgrade the coil packs

 

my plan:

change the plugs

 hange the DV to the one you recommended and see how it goes

No resolved issues then ill go to him to get a diagnostic done

thoughts?